Sex exists

It all boils down to biology

We have societal roles for the two sexes because they made sense for thousands of years

They still do, to some extent

I don’t think it’s bad to say men should support a family, for example

No, but we act like it does. It's actively enforced in some cases. IE the social stigma of crossdressing. At the core, theres no reason a skirt is "feminine", but a man is berated and called gay or trans if he decides he likes wearing them. This causes a lot of confusion for people who don't conform to these roles, and this is reinforced by the left who takes this confused people and tell them that they don't like skirts. Their problem is that they were born in the wrong body.

Gender norms exist for a reason because of natural differences between sexes. however, these differences already manifest naturally and there. Tehy don't need to be enforced.

Idk man I like cute girly girls

I don’t like having those distinctions removed

We live in a society where there’s a standard of normality that should be upheld

Indeed

Social norms are good

We have thots because of a collapse of social norms

Or, well, a major change in them anyway

Girly cute girls will exist naturally becasue females tend to be agreeable and open. However, "tomboys" have a personality that is traditionally masculine, and they shouldnt be forced to be feminine.

Not normal guy would want to be overly feminine

These norms will self enforce and those that don't conform are a better fit elsewhere.

Outliers like tomboys are expected

It’s also not a masculine personality per se

But to go farther than that is where issues arise

Just a woman with male hobbies or style

Pushing those boundaries is bad

Yes, and that's my point. tomboys and traps will always be outliers, so whats the point in enforcing this? It only causes tomboys and traps to think that the y were "supposed" to be men and attempt to transition, instead of understadnign that females can be mascuiline and males can be feminine, even if its rare

You have to keep people like that in check

Why?

Or else the societal norms degrade

Don’t tell them they’re supposed to be women or men or vice versa

Traps or tomboys are fine

^

yes

Let them be

The whole transgenderism thing is bad, and has roots in flawed understanding of shit

Men will be mascuiline on their own. It's literally genetic. There's no need to enforce outliers.

I don’t think traps are comparable to tomboys

Girl wants to act manly? Sure, ain’t hurting nobody

Girl wants a double mastectomy and a fake dick?

That’s a bit

Uh

Wrong, if you ask me

Traps like feminine clothes and girly things, in general. How is that different than a tomboy?

Because tomboys aren’t pretending to be men they just have similar likes, hobbies and life styles