Message from @Benis

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2018-12-19 19:03:15 UTC  

And thus could be deported if I say too much too fast publicly before I get citizenship

2018-12-19 19:03:20 UTC  

"don't be a criminal you nigger"

2018-12-19 19:04:40 UTC  

what about the people who deserve to do time because they did something, get fucked in the prison system, and then become recidivists?

2018-12-19 19:04:57 UTC  

I mean, right now it's for profit which is anti-recovery

2018-12-19 19:05:10 UTC  

They say rehabilitation is the solution, I partially believe that.

2018-12-19 19:05:15 UTC  

The current issue is, there is too much fence riding

2018-12-19 19:05:20 UTC  

to way for profit prisons are run, they have every incentive to make offenders worse people

2018-12-19 19:05:31 UTC  

You get fucking cons who kill families and get out early due to good behavior, and do it again

2018-12-19 19:05:36 UTC  

And then meth heads who just need a little rehab

2018-12-19 19:05:46 UTC  

Right now, we're between recovery and full on penal life.

2018-12-19 19:05:58 UTC  

If they locked up killers for life, the relapses would stop technically.

2018-12-19 19:06:08 UTC  

many offenders can be rehabilitated, and they need to be, there are those who cannot be, and they should be removed from society

2018-12-19 19:06:10 UTC  

If they did recovery, there would be less relapsing too.

2018-12-19 19:06:14 UTC  

Right now we're just in a shitty place. This is due to Americans being eternal fence riders, especially if there is a profit to be had from it.

2018-12-19 19:06:49 UTC  

Agreed fully Nic

2018-12-19 19:36:04 UTC  

The prisons themselves need a lot of reform, but making it easier for felons to get out of prison is retarded. Anyone involved in the drug trade, especially for shit like heroin should be killed by the state. Massive finical fraud should also be punished in a similar manner. Having these people back on the street at all looks terrible for the 'law and order' candidate. I don't have any sympathy for violent offenders or anyone involved in trafficking drugs except the addicts themselves.

2018-12-19 19:37:59 UTC  

Shit like weed or LSD isn't as bad so you could have less punishments for that, but anyone who traffics, deals, or produces opioids should be killed.

2018-12-19 19:38:10 UTC  

Including those at Purdue

2018-12-19 19:44:50 UTC  

I think opioids do have a legitimate medical use, they are being given to patients in a way thats irresponsible

2018-12-19 19:51:34 UTC  

I think they only really have a use for immediate trauma care. The Sackler brothers completely manipulated medical journals in order to focus on long term treatment of pain with them.

2018-12-19 19:51:53 UTC  

They own the name brand, the generic, and the treatment.

2018-12-19 19:52:05 UTC  

Every time you open your mouth I slap my forehead

2018-12-19 19:52:35 UTC  

I'll keep typing then

2018-12-19 19:53:23 UTC  

I got OxyContin when I had my wisdom teeth taken out. That shit was wild

2018-12-19 19:53:35 UTC  

I can see exactly how people get addicted to it

2018-12-19 19:54:05 UTC  

Addiction is more than the drugs

2018-12-19 19:54:21 UTC  

Just like anything else, there is more to it than drug X

2018-12-19 19:56:54 UTC  

Opioids are pretty addictive by themselves, really more so than any other drug. In addition, a lot of the pill mills were placed in poor areas, precisely because low agency people would become addicted to them.

2018-12-19 19:58:28 UTC  

Purdue is very predatory with their selling of opioids.

2018-12-19 19:59:02 UTC  

Yes, that’s part of it. There are a lot of people at different levels that made a lot of money off of pushing pain meds.

2018-12-19 20:00:30 UTC  

They did similar stuff with Valium in the 70's-80's too.

2018-12-19 20:00:50 UTC  

And cocaine in the 30s

2018-12-19 20:00:55 UTC  

And heroin before that

2018-12-19 20:01:16 UTC  

It changes decade to decade but there is always some substance

2018-12-19 20:05:28 UTC  

I don't think those are really comparable, the opioid crisis is now so bad that the US has a decreasing live expectancy. There's tens of thousands of deaths every year because of it.

2018-12-19 20:07:54 UTC  

Think of it this way

2018-12-19 20:08:00 UTC  

When they die off, our expectancy goes up

2018-12-19 20:08:03 UTC  

/s

2018-12-19 23:59:12 UTC  

The problem isn't a drug company conspiracy

2018-12-19 23:59:49 UTC  

It's the fact that, pound for pound, there is no pain medication as effective as opiates yet available for human consumption.

2018-12-20 00:00:44 UTC  

Sure, a lot of pain can be managed by therapy, but stretching and exercise aren't going to deal with the pain of say, burns or surgery.