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2018-12-19 19:54:21 UTC  

Just like anything else, there is more to it than drug X

2018-12-19 19:56:54 UTC  

Opioids are pretty addictive by themselves, really more so than any other drug. In addition, a lot of the pill mills were placed in poor areas, precisely because low agency people would become addicted to them.

2018-12-19 19:58:28 UTC  

Purdue is very predatory with their selling of opioids.

2018-12-19 19:59:02 UTC  

Yes, that’s part of it. There are a lot of people at different levels that made a lot of money off of pushing pain meds.

2018-12-19 20:00:30 UTC  

They did similar stuff with Valium in the 70's-80's too.

2018-12-19 20:00:50 UTC  

And cocaine in the 30s

2018-12-19 20:00:55 UTC  

And heroin before that

2018-12-19 20:01:16 UTC  

It changes decade to decade but there is always some substance

2018-12-19 20:05:28 UTC  

I don't think those are really comparable, the opioid crisis is now so bad that the US has a decreasing live expectancy. There's tens of thousands of deaths every year because of it.

2018-12-19 20:07:54 UTC  

Think of it this way

2018-12-19 20:08:00 UTC  

When they die off, our expectancy goes up

2018-12-19 20:08:03 UTC  

/s

2018-12-19 23:59:12 UTC  

The problem isn't a drug company conspiracy

2018-12-19 23:59:49 UTC  

It's the fact that, pound for pound, there is no pain medication as effective as opiates yet available for human consumption.

2018-12-20 00:00:44 UTC  

Sure, a lot of pain can be managed by therapy, but stretching and exercise aren't going to deal with the pain of say, burns or surgery.

2018-12-20 00:01:30 UTC  

There are a few new pain killer methods being researched, an a sodium channel blocker based off the mechanism that causes certain people to feel literally no pain at all ever.

2018-12-20 00:02:11 UTC  

But the same tardmongers that call for strict testing and eval are the same tardmongers that bitch it now takes decades and hundreds of millions of dollars to get a med through to human trials.

2018-12-20 00:02:43 UTC  

Not counting the hundreds of billions that go in to R&D, production, and distribution that have to be recoupped at the minimum

2018-12-20 00:03:37 UTC  

Half the reason the medical field still pushes opiates is because there's nothing better that's legally allowed yet.

2018-12-20 00:04:21 UTC  

And believe me, the first company to get an effective non-opiate painkiller on the market is going to DOMINATE it for the next several decades at least.

2018-12-20 00:04:53 UTC  

Bruh

2018-12-20 00:05:05 UTC  

Surgery pain is awful

2018-12-20 00:05:19 UTC  

I recall the Va trying to drown my ass in opiates

2018-12-20 00:05:36 UTC  

I had to fight for physical therapy

2018-12-20 00:05:40 UTC  

The VA is a whole 'nother can of bullshit

2018-12-20 00:05:48 UTC  

And it still sucked

2018-12-20 00:05:56 UTC  

Because I had turned down said opiates

2018-12-20 00:06:02 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-20 00:06:30 UTC  

Like opiates for a week or two after a major injury and/or surgery is fine

2018-12-20 00:06:38 UTC  

They had me on oxy full time though

2018-12-20 00:06:52 UTC  

But after that you should be doing PT to deal with the pain

2018-12-20 00:06:55 UTC  

I cannot recall but they wanted me on something stronger full time

2018-12-20 00:07:19 UTC  

stronger than oxy? Fuck me you'd have been out of your gourd.

2018-12-20 00:09:50 UTC  

No I remember now. Oxy was the initial push to be my base pill. Which ironically was what they gave me post op in the USMC so to have that for pain management is overkill

2018-12-20 00:09:57 UTC  

I ended up on vicodin for a year.

2018-12-20 00:10:04 UTC  

Fuck that shit

2018-12-20 00:10:40 UTC  

Niggas wanting to kill my kidneys

2018-12-20 00:10:49 UTC  

Soda gonna do that for em haha

2018-12-20 00:11:16 UTC  

This was in 14 prior to the opiate reform in the VA

2018-12-20 00:11:30 UTC  

Now they fight just to issue vicodin

2018-12-20 00:11:36 UTC  

The VA just needs to be gutted and replaced