They're not meant to be substitutions or trump cards for arguments lmao

I know, I just found this to be a good overall definition of the fallacy you are currently discussing

It is, thank you.

would that apply to me calling liberal progressive gun owners who say they support 2A not real 2A supporters?

It would in the lowest sense.

IE: The 2A "I support the 2A BUT," and then you point out they don't, cause they don't

yea

Really good question

I would argue technically, yes the fallacy applies but, it's over-ruled as it's a logical argument that actually applies.

just not sure how they can say "i think the 2A is a good thing" and then vote for people who want to destroy it

As the 2A is a zero sum game, not a win win

i think they're confused

Meaning you either win or lose

I kinda wish they'd get a Democrat president and just do it

To trigger Cowabunga

With 9mmsmg on this

that was my point earlier

And I am agreeing with it

All I wanted to do was play Halo and own guns

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Cowabunga it is

it is a reluctant cowabunga

"It is with a heavy heart, I yeet this senator with my privately owned 50bmg"

"Reluctant"

in a sense

Oh sorry, in minecraft

I'm cool with a revolution every 100 years or so tbh. It's pretty common

everyone knows it means the end of everything as we know it

Most just aren't bloody

Waiting for France to finish the fight

we didn't really want to have to

what is going on in France, total media blackout here

I think the "end of everything as we know it" is really what keeps anyone from really doing anything

of course

it's comfortable

@Autistic Frog baguette update

The status quo is too comfortable to keep in place

Ingenuity dies in comfort

Complacency breeds mistakes

I think churchill lamented this same thing during WWII

wat