For air to air

Yeah, sub-900kph speed vs a2a missile armed supersonic jets? No thanks.

They have 2 AIM-9Bs and then 4 Hispano Mk.Vs

But that's only 2 AIM-9Bs

They're not that hard to shake off and then you're stuck with 4 Mk.5 Hispanos

Isn't there a hard cap going up?

The Brit one actually doesn't get missiles

It's a relatively small thing, but hispanos are still shit

And yeah that's because the Brits didnt actually use it that much

While the West Germs actively had it as an air defense fighter

Same BR tho)))))))))))))))

Yeah

It's fine at 7.7 with or without missiles

Because it's only 2 missiles

Point still stands

They're not AIM-9Es or AIM-9Ls

Yeah, Aim-9bs are only really useful in a straight line chase

The Bs are easy to outmaneuver

I am seriously underwhelmed by the SF 88 barge

and they slow you down

Not terribly but yes

Parasite drag is a thing

So are empty mass coefficients for things with bomb bays like bombers

Rare vehicle flexing time

Ah the infamous Soviet Paratrooper plane

You know they tried to attach I-16 monoplanes and I-153 biplanes to that thing as ghetto rigged parasite fighters?

Comrade help me, my head is stuck

yeah, the zveno project

The thing is so sad that the fighters had to run their engines to provide enough power for the whole plane/platform to take off

>500hp engines

Yeah but also a really big and fat plane

The thing didnt actually like getting off the ground historically

Once you did it, it was fine

But it was getting it to get off the ground that was the issue

Everything about that aircraft insults aerodynamics

That thing has wings thicker than a grown-ass mans height

It's russian

Did you expect anything else?

The Heinkel 111 H-6 and H-16s were also that way, but they were only that way if you took their maximum bomb and fuel loads.

Also thick wings only help to a certain extent, then they give diminishing returns

At least Germans invested in enclosed cabins