Message from @RoflTank

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2019-02-19 00:12:47 UTC  

It doesn't have thrust vectoring.
"It was powered by two turbofan engines with each in a separate engine nacelle with S-ducts, to shield engine axial compressors from radar waves, on either side of the aircraft's spine.[21] Of the two aircraft built, the first YF-23 (PAV-1) was fitted with Pratt & Whitney YF119 engines, while the second (PAV-2) was powered by General Electric YF120 engines. The aircraft featured fixed engine nozzles, instead of thrust vectoring nozzles as on the YF-22.[11] As on the B-2, the exhaust from the YF-23's engines flowed through troughs lined with heat-ablating tiles to dissipate heat and shield the engines from infrared homing (IR) missile detection from below."

2019-02-19 00:13:24 UTC  

Just fixed outputs with heat shields to increase the stealth capability

2019-02-19 00:13:39 UTC  

That's strange, considering both the F119 and YF120 have integral thrust vectoring

2019-02-19 00:14:15 UTC  

Sure, but on this airframe, it doesn't

2019-02-19 00:14:23 UTC  

Though it sounds like Northrop increased the stealth profile by burying the outlet in the vents

2019-02-19 00:14:23 UTC  

That's honestly the first time I've ever heard of that tbh.

2019-02-19 00:14:38 UTC  

@FrostBite'sAce thrust vectoring or the lack of it on this aircraft?

2019-02-19 00:14:51 UTC  

Integral Thrust Vectoring

2019-02-19 00:15:04 UTC  

Most 4th gen or higher engines have integral thrust vectoring built in

2019-02-19 00:15:20 UTC  

Anything in the 160kN+ class tends to be used in supermaneuvering airframes

2019-02-19 00:17:04 UTC  

The only hope for the YF-23 airframe is with Japan. They're looking at it to base their next aircraft of of.

2019-02-19 00:18:05 UTC  

I mean given how earth-shatteringly fuck-ass mad the DoD is with Lockheed atm... Northrop might be able to just slap a new YF-23 in front of them next fighter upgrade.

2019-02-19 00:18:29 UTC  

Oh, and to note on what you said about the YF-23 bomber thing - according to Wikipedia, Northrop tried hopping in on the USAF's need for an interim bomber back in '04 proposing to base the airframe off of the YF-23's. It would have competed with the FB-22 and B-1R but in '06, the USAF decided they wanted a long range bomber with a lot more reach. This actually ended up birthing the program that lead to the B-21.

2019-02-19 00:19:00 UTC  

Aaaahhhh, I knew it was reproposed but I didn't know they wanted to bomberize it

2019-02-19 00:20:05 UTC  

Wow the B-21 looks like a non-clusterfuck program

2019-02-19 00:20:54 UTC  

Major part compaitibilities, open system architecture, under 1b so far, based on the B-2 so the development cost should be low.

2019-02-19 00:21:14 UTC  

Just wait till the contractor gets a hold of it

2019-02-19 00:21:17 UTC  

then creates artificial delays

2019-02-19 00:21:51 UTC  

@FrostBite'sAce The MQ-101 drones in AC7 look suspiciously like the B-21 <:smugflat:500075410487377922> <:wendy:360615134407819276>

2019-02-19 00:22:04 UTC  

thought the pentagon was cracking down on vaporware spending

2019-02-19 00:22:13 UTC  

"The AF wants a Penetrating Counter-Air fighter to escort B-21's in to enemy airspace"

2019-02-19 00:22:16 UTC  

@Magos Squid "The Life Raft" Actually, hold that thought.

2019-02-19 00:22:20 UTC  

So basically a YF-23

2019-02-19 00:22:35 UTC  

Jesus christ can the AF make up their fucking minds

2019-02-19 00:22:46 UTC  

nope

2019-02-19 00:22:47 UTC  

@RoflTank It's not just the AF deciding anymore

2019-02-19 00:22:50 UTC  

gotta buy more f-22's goy

2019-02-19 00:22:52 UTC  

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2019-02-19 00:23:16 UTC  

We're pretty much back into the mindset of post-WW2 where ***everyone*** gets to say what they want

2019-02-19 00:23:33 UTC  

Ooooooohhhhhh the X-47 gives me the big iron

2019-02-19 00:23:35 UTC  

>Northrop Grumman

Okay, nvm. Maybe it wont get fucked up by the contractor

2019-02-19 00:23:51 UTC  

Northrop produces that good shit

2019-02-19 00:24:28 UTC  

Also they get extra points for realizing that BWB and flying wings are the best airframes.

2019-02-19 00:24:36 UTC  

it's what made the F-35 into a burning trashcan.
Every branch gets to say what they want in the new plane, but only 1 contractor gets the contract instead of several contracts, 1 -2 per branch like it used to be.

2019-02-19 00:24:48 UTC  

You're not wrong

2019-02-19 00:25:11 UTC  

The AF is getting their planes fucked because they have to fill 4 branches worth of mission profiles with one airframe

2019-02-19 00:25:42 UTC  

But then the AF wants to delet the airframes that are dedicated to other branches

2019-02-19 00:25:56 UTC  

Because the AF is stupid

2019-02-19 00:26:06 UTC  

And they have too much responsibility in a single branch

2019-02-19 00:26:18 UTC  

^^