Message from @RoflTank

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2018-10-14 19:23:43 UTC  

Just don't put a 2lb fucking cheesegrater on the AR and you're good

2018-10-14 19:23:43 UTC  

>Implying the Federov isnt the best Assault rifle

2018-10-14 19:23:53 UTC  

Also fuck the forward assist

2018-10-14 19:23:54 UTC  

Hot take: The AR-15 is just an updated StG.44

2018-10-14 19:24:03 UTC  

5.56 is being used in guns with a 14-16in barrel when it was literally designed for 20in barrels, and based on the WWII design of the assault rifle for engagements within a 200-300m envelope

2018-10-14 19:24:18 UTC  

Despite modern engagements being well in to the 800m range

2018-10-14 19:24:32 UTC  

The M16 was fine and the m4 is bad

2018-10-14 19:24:35 UTC  

And both NATO rounds being fucking garbage at these ranges

2018-10-14 19:24:41 UTC  

And still adequate Rofl. In addition, the AR-15 is one of the easier rifles to rechamber for new rounds. Everything from .22 LR to .50BMG and 20mm uppers for AR-15s exist.

2018-10-14 19:24:53 UTC  

It's inadequate

2018-10-14 19:24:55 UTC  

Modern engagements *Sometimes* reach into 800m

2018-10-14 19:25:02 UTC  

but if everyone uses an assault rifle that cant engage well past 300 but they engage at 800 whats the issue? seems like a fair fight to me

2018-10-14 19:25:06 UTC  

Most are within 200m

2018-10-14 19:25:12 UTC  

Artillery does our 800m

2018-10-14 19:25:17 UTC  

An overwhelming majority under 100m

2018-10-14 19:25:17 UTC  

They are routinely beyond 200m

2018-10-14 19:25:25 UTC  

The problem is the word police bullshit

2018-10-14 19:25:36 UTC  

To the point that infantry are bitching to bring back battel rifles because 5.56 is inadequate

2018-10-14 19:25:55 UTC  

>Same infantry will begin bitching about recoil

2018-10-14 19:26:01 UTC  

5.56 is inadequate in desert patrols

2018-10-14 19:26:05 UTC  

Infantry bitch about everything

2018-10-14 19:26:07 UTC  

@RoflTank Okay, so the AR-15 is inadequate. In what ways is it lacking? Are there any ways for those shortcomings to be addressed without fucking with the design too much? If not, what do you propose to take its place?

2018-10-14 19:26:09 UTC  

The US army moves on artillery, and we're just holding back because we're acting as police in the middle east

2018-10-14 19:26:40 UTC  

>Inb4 XM8

2018-10-14 19:26:46 UTC  

"my armor is heavy", "my armor is too light", "my gun is too big", "my gun can't kill past 300m", "my gun has too much recoil", "my ammo is too heavy"

2018-10-14 19:26:55 UTC  

M16 fine

2018-10-14 19:27:22 UTC  

@RoflTank You have not addressed any of my questions. Do you intend to do so?

2018-10-14 19:27:24 UTC  

And if you're going to go with a 16" barrel the dissipator was a better idea than an m4

2018-10-14 19:27:24 UTC  

It needs to be rebuilt to accept new tech and calibers, and the controls are antiquated.

2018-10-14 19:27:38 UTC  

There is no new tech

2018-10-14 19:27:38 UTC  

The design needs a complete internal rework

2018-10-14 19:27:38 UTC  

so if they bitch about everything why are you using them bitching about one specific thing to add credibility to your position?

2018-10-14 19:28:23 UTC  

Because it they're bitching about a factual, observable problem that's not just them being whiny faggots

2018-10-14 19:28:30 UTC  

Literally any downside of the ar15 can be swapped

2018-10-14 19:28:36 UTC  

Says who? you?

2018-10-14 19:28:44 UTC  

It is an amorphous blob that can be altered to fit any role

2018-10-14 19:29:04 UTC  

So stopping power is the problem with the AR-15?

2018-10-14 19:29:06 UTC  

It is the modular rifle that the stoner 63 wishes it was

2018-10-14 19:29:10 UTC  

Says mountains of combat reports that consistently showing infantry carbines being inadequate at ranges over 300m

2018-10-14 19:29:20 UTC  

7.62 NATO upper.

2018-10-14 19:29:26 UTC  

Boom. Problem solved.