Message from @RoflTank
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I think there are far better methods for instituting meaningful change than those outlined in Siege.
That being all said, in a nutshell, the argument in siege is as follows:
* Vast majority of population are lemmings who rely on the gov't for their needs and wants
* They cannot be argued or reasoned with in a way that makes them abandon the gov't in it's current state
* Therefore, to change their alignment, you must prevent the gov't from providing for their needs and wants
Essentially it's an argument to use indiscriminate violence to sow discord and topple the supports of society so other parties have a shot at winning the alignment of lemmings.
That’s retarded
Ideally under the conditions outlined in Siege, that party to take power in the chaos would be far-right and ethno-nationalist in nature
Oh I agree runes
It's fucking retarded and a good way to make nationalism even more taboo in the West.
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you wanna see discontent? Double food and fuel prices.
OOF
Remember the Arab spring?
Collapse the agricultural sector even more with ridiculous EPA regs
Let osha loose
That was started over food prices
And then use the EPA to destroy domestic oil and natgas production
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double fuel, food and power prices
I mean I get cranky about high gas prices
Wtf are you doing man
Runes, the EPA is the best weapon to do exactly that.
Starting a civil war
Honestly, if we had control over those industries and collapsed them or inflated prices to a degree that only the rich could afford them, that would be an economic way of accomplishing what was outlined in Siege.
They're heavily left-supported, and they can destroy industrial and agricultural sectors with ridiculous psuedo-science and fines.
Also, you can fear-monger about GMOs and fracking
I... I got nothing.
People love pearl clutching over that
Like I said, the theory is that Lemmings go along with shit because the government provides them with what they need and want. Deprive them of that and they search for a new teat to suckle.
@FireRising and the new teat is usually worse than the old teat
Well you just need to set up the new teat beforehand
I got popcorn
This is true. Like I said, Siegefags are fucking retarded.
If they can't get their basic needs from the government, the "conditioning" or whatever is broken is the idea?
If you want a Hitlerian rise to power, you need to set up the same circumstances beforehand
Sort of.
Hitlerian sounds like an ayy lmao tbh
lolol
Hitler-esque?
No, i like Hitlerian
You can't break the conditioning, you just provide them with an alternative which can give them a better deal if they support the new system
lmao, Hitlerian it is then
You aren't breaking the conditioning so much as hijacking it.
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WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING