Message from @Aegis

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2019-01-08 16:25:58 UTC  

Should it not be verified that you are who you say you are and that you aren't a felon

2019-01-08 16:26:15 UTC  

Or that you aren't a prohibited person for mental or dv

2019-01-08 16:26:20 UTC  

Or a dishonorable discharge

2019-01-08 16:26:23 UTC  

I'm a 2a advocate but

2019-01-08 16:26:45 UTC  

Nah fam you can't pull that shit here

2019-01-08 16:26:57 UTC  

Absolutely can

2019-01-08 16:27:01 UTC  

What we have works fine right now.

2019-01-08 16:27:04 UTC  

To ask for more is ridiculous.

2019-01-08 16:27:09 UTC  

Which is what the context of the conversation was.

2019-01-08 16:27:11 UTC  

Actually they aren't fine

2019-01-08 16:27:27 UTC  

There are holes in the system and bullshit that needs to be cut out

2019-01-08 16:28:16 UTC  

The fix nics bill that was ruined was actually a good thing for gun owners

2019-01-08 16:28:51 UTC  

The NRA wanted to go a lot further with that "ruined," bill.

2019-01-08 16:29:01 UTC  

If you don't like the databases together you get people who are barred from owning guns passing 4473s no problem and nobody knows until they shoot a church

2019-01-08 16:29:03 UTC  

Which was the context of the conversation on instagram that Mac and I were discussing

2019-01-08 16:29:11 UTC  

Well the NRA is shit

2019-01-08 16:29:18 UTC  

I said before it was ruined

2019-01-08 16:30:05 UTC  

Get the systems in place working properly and problems stop

2019-01-08 16:30:13 UTC  

^

2019-01-08 16:30:18 UTC  

Nics has holes in it

2019-01-08 16:31:46 UTC  

Continued screeching about private transactions doesn't solve the fact that people who have abuse convictions have bought guns to do harm, when it shouldn't have been possible in the first place

2019-01-08 16:32:21 UTC  

It's easier to yell about banning though instead of comprehensive connections of every police and judicial database in the country

2019-01-08 16:32:58 UTC  

Funnily enough, the latter is cheaper than the former

2019-01-08 16:35:31 UTC  

It would cost about 10 mil to overhaul and fix nics

2019-01-08 16:38:00 UTC  

Yeah I don't disagree.

2019-01-08 16:38:13 UTC  

Confiscating/buying back every gun actively harms the economy and puts people's lives in danger

2019-01-08 16:38:17 UTC  

My fear is the NRA spearheading a terrible bill that is a footnote or keystone that drives us to European gun control levels.

2019-01-08 16:38:27 UTC  

Which was the argument. This dude was getting btfo'd hard for being a fudd last night.

2019-01-08 16:39:00 UTC  

As far as interlinking databases - they're already there, so it's not like it's anything more that needs to be done barring linking them. They each exist separately atm. You won't find me arguing against linking them, that's pretty common sense shit.

2019-01-08 16:39:13 UTC  

It would have stopped the Dallas shooter. He had been dishonorably discharged for beating his wife.

2019-01-08 16:39:36 UTC  

But, because the USAF mis-filed and the databases aren't linked, he got a gun easier than most people.

2019-01-08 16:39:47 UTC  

Actually, I dunno if it was dishonorable. I think it was OTH or Gen sep.

2019-01-08 16:39:49 UTC  

But, same shit different day.

2019-01-08 16:43:06 UTC  

Oth but still a dv conviction

2019-01-08 16:43:18 UTC  

Hell, half of these fucks don't even own their own guns even most of the time when they go blasting

2019-01-08 16:43:50 UTC  

The Vegas guy didn't even make sense for using bump stocks because at his wealth level, he could've easily bought legitimate full autos

2019-01-08 16:44:48 UTC  

Yeah he'd not touch a gun.

2019-01-08 16:44:49 UTC  

Shitbag

2019-01-08 16:49:27 UTC  

The natural right to defend one's self shouldn't be infringed upon and I believe those with the intention to harm another person will choose their weaponry whether they're legal to use them or not.

2019-01-08 16:50:44 UTC  

Basically. The guy wanted noguns, to stop criminals.

2019-01-08 16:50:50 UTC  

I told him outlaws are called outlaws because they're outside the law.