Message from @Vanilla Cake

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2019-02-06 10:30:21 UTC  

They didn't try to recoup by using it on anything else

2019-02-06 10:30:22 UTC  

I mean, why dump a fuckton of money when there's no threat of invasion?

2019-02-06 10:30:28 UTC  

Demobilization sucks

2019-02-06 10:30:39 UTC  

The G11, as cool as it is, wasn't necessary and neither was it's ammo. History has proven as much

2019-02-06 10:31:06 UTC  

HK is a business, and to stay in business, they need to make money

2019-02-06 10:31:12 UTC  

It's like a pharma company researching a med, dumping billions in to R&D, and not even bothering to seel it as a generic brand to recoup the cost.

2019-02-06 10:31:16 UTC  

although they seem to be bad at doing so...

2019-02-06 10:31:24 UTC  

Exactly

2019-02-06 10:31:33 UTC  

I mean, I get what you mean, but using "It's not necessary" as an argument is not something I agree on. Why innovate in the first place?

2019-02-06 10:31:40 UTC  

they are so successful, they put themselves out of business

2019-02-06 10:32:03 UTC  

need drives innovation

2019-02-06 10:32:05 UTC  

You guys are like "der wuz no need" and I fucking get that, but my point is they have this thing, which is very useful, and they've never tried to recoup the cost of inventing it

2019-02-06 10:32:23 UTC  

The round itself is spectacular

2019-02-06 10:32:30 UTC  

as an arms company now, you either cater to the military first or the civilian shooting sports

2019-02-06 10:32:40 UTC  

It's small, light, and mimics 5.56 NATO

2019-02-06 10:32:59 UTC  

I can;'t imagine it would be difficult to make a more conventional firearm that uses 4.73

2019-02-06 10:33:19 UTC  

right, but the logistics and cost for anyone to replace all conventional small arms with it is enormous

2019-02-06 10:33:27 UTC  

Nobody said replace

2019-02-06 10:33:37 UTC  

great, now you're the french

2019-02-06 10:33:45 UTC  

I'm talking some shit like an AR-15 kit for 4.73 so you can meme it up

2019-02-06 10:33:51 UTC  

Oof

2019-02-06 10:33:51 UTC  

IIRC, the ammo is also actually really fragile and even minor imperfections could ruin the entire round

2019-02-06 10:33:55 UTC  

^

2019-02-06 10:33:58 UTC  

Calling someone the french is a low blow

2019-02-06 10:34:01 UTC  

That was pre-modification Squid

2019-02-06 10:34:04 UTC  

lol

2019-02-06 10:34:19 UTC  

HK designed an entirely new explosive just for 4.73

2019-02-06 10:34:35 UTC  

I mean that in a "we have 8 different calibers and rifles because we kept everything from a century ago"

2019-02-06 10:34:39 UTC  

french

2019-02-06 10:34:51 UTC  

It set hard, had a stupidly high heat tolerance, and was difficult to break.

2019-02-06 10:34:52 UTC  

Oh no, I get it, I still find it funny

2019-02-06 10:35:22 UTC  

caseless is being developed right now with polymer

2019-02-06 10:35:30 UTC  

Like post-redesign the 4.73 round was actually harder to set off than conventional brass

2019-02-06 10:35:39 UTC  

less worry about the HK style of caseless

2019-02-06 10:35:58 UTC  

Polymer semi-caseless has been done for almost 40 years now

2019-02-06 10:36:04 UTC  

"done"

2019-02-06 10:36:20 UTC  

MAC, do you know how NATO 120mm tank shells work?

2019-02-06 10:36:48 UTC  

yes, it's nitrocellulose with a baseplate

2019-02-06 10:36:55 UTC  

It's a semi-caseless polymer round with a metal abseplate.

2019-02-06 10:36:57 UTC  

I'm saying for small arms

2019-02-06 10:37:06 UTC  

It's the same difference, you're just caught up in scale.