Message from @Reichtangle
Discord ID: 548971514813218847
The long, heavy bullets of the Carcano were made to yaw pretty heavily if I remember
But yes, a "proto-battle rifle" seems like the best way to describe the federov in modern terms
However, the standard Italian service round used an unstable round-nosed bullet with a propensity to tumble, whether hitting soft tissue/ballistic gel or harder material such as bone.
not sure if they did that on purpose or if it was just because round nose rifle bullets were still fairly common
and they had to lengthen it to meet their weight reqirements
🤷
long bullets just yaw
The fedorov is sorta a battle rifle sorta an automatic rifle and we don’t really have good records on how it was used, only that it was relatively well liked
If only the Russians had kept 6.5 Jap in mind when developing the AVS and AVT
not sure that would have mattered
similar situation to the US and .276 pederson
276 is a more appreciable advantage though
Flatter shooting at the ranges combat occurs in, and two extra rounds in the en-bloc
A 6.5 AVT would have slightly less weird mags and shoot softer
Not that SVT’s shoot particularly hard
But it would have been controllable in full auto
Moreso anyway
right, but I mean from a logistical standpoint
For the US that’s far less of an issue
>Logical standpoint
In this server?
In theatre it would be kind of a PITA until all the 1903’s were gone but otherwise given how good US logistics were it would have been fine
For the Russians it would have been a nightmare lmao
ehhhh
10 years to re quip
and the US didn't have any machineguns in .276
For a long time we didn’t have an MG in 5.56 either
They changed cartridges halfway through Nam
If a 276 garand was accepted in 36 it gives them 5 years to prepare
Also consider this: 276 BAR
yea, but it was far more advantageous logistically to have one caliber in that scale of a conflict
Yes
But they weren’t aware they’d be dragged into a war that large
BAR is just meh any way you slice it
On the other hand there’s also the chance you’d wind up with a Russia situation
Or, well, a P13 scenario more likely
“War were declared, convert the Garand to standard 30-06 and use the 1903 in the meantime”
so a slower fielding than what happened
actually, I'm sure the M1919 or 1917s could have been converted to .276 without too much trouble
Well yeah
That was what I was attempting to get at
Did the 1919 use a similar action to the maxim?