it's got good ergos

the terminal ballistics are concerning

That's just a 5.7 thing

Paul harrell covers this in depth with a great explaination

yea I've seen it

Which is why I will never own one now

I just don't think it's really any better than a .22 Magnum unless you have a P90 full auto

I have seen where these could be really nice to have

and there are times where I could have made effective use out of one

it's 2/3rds of a .223

glorified varmint pistol

unless you are going through light armor it is basically worthless

something a high velocity 9mm does better

Can confirm, the Five Seven is... Well it just doesn't feel like a top-end handgun.

Honestly, perhaps my faith in FN is over-rated due to the FAL

FAL? G3 or G4. FN 5.7? Any higher end 9mm pistol. FN Scar? AR15/M4.

I mean you might as well get a .17HMR kit for a 10/22, it's actually better at AP than 5.7

The scar sucks

That's the point I am making.

They all have a viable alternative.

Holy fuck I want to get a .22 pistol, chamber it in .17, then autosear it for memes

This hurts me to admit, I've been an FN fanboy for years.

FN is meh, always has been

They have neat stuff but they're meh

I guess the whole FAL shit really pulled the wool over my eyes.

But hell, it's a DSA FAL

@RoflTank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaIdwTtiLNg

basically that

YES

Now just make it .17HMR and I'll take 8

It sounds like giggle factor

Yes but also you're getting like 20 holes punched in you in the time it takes a normal pistol to fire one

forget that, give me an American 180 for maximum swarm of angry bees

What about that but with .22 earsplittingloudenboomer

ANGERY BEEEEEEES

An94 but in .17hmr2 and with quad burst

American 180 in .17HMR, loudenboomer break

can you dont

an-94 is so cringe inducing from a design perspective

G11 but .17 HMR

would be easier