@Alex ✠ why?

trotsky was killed for being dumb

and trying to destroy the ussr

he said that communism needs capitalism in its first stages

basically

and stalin disagreed

what

@Alex ✠ Communism will always need capitalism to be implemented

and it fails until they get out of money

why?

strange

because their economical system always fail, because there is not private property, there's not foreing investors, the state always spend most of it's wealth in different areas such as infraestructures, education, armed forces (wich is not bad) but... the problem is that when there's no foreing investors and there's no private property the state would not have more earnings and they could not compense all the money they spent

“Communism is capitalism “

Karl Marx is spinning in his grave

thats literally what grimm is saying

@beans i explained what Yugoslavia used during Titoism

@beans they came out of the Russian empire, anything is better then that

and you are saying that Communism is Capitalism

titoism was entirely capitalism

the only difference being

they had co-operatives rather than private ownership

@beans but their political system was still left-wing

like China

left wing =/= communist

🆙 | **beans leveled up!**

Communism is Extreme Left Wing

what are you talking about?

yes

left wing =/= communist

communists are one part of the far left

then why the =/=?

communism cannot be compared to social democracy

Social Democracy also can fail

I haven’t seen it fail yet

Sweden is doing good economically

In my country it did, during 1959-1999

social democracy follows the laws of capitalism

market crashes still exist

the rate of profitability still declines

however social democracy is the best form of capitalism

explain why is the best form of capitalism @beans

social democracy can have many things, but the main aspect of it is having a social safety net for people so they don't get completely fucked over when something bad happens