never thought it would go this far

and to be honest, i dont blame you. We can't know until it's too late. Hence why we call it "faith", we don't know for certain but it at least holds some value to us that we still believe it to be so. Like I said, just be a good person and there's no reason god would hate you knowing full well how people can easily fuck up the real message of religion.

no wonder the dragon ball community is so cucked

And if i'm merely a mortal, then god's plan should be way better than mine, so that means that he could save the kid and do the best of the situation.

If god's intervened in everything why even put us here?

what would the point be?

Again you would think so, but divine intervention is the same concept as running an experiment and constantly fucking with the variables. It has to progress as is to yield genuine results.

I don't believe in God, and i think i will never do.

But if i die, and he wants to judge me, i will become my own lawyer.

Rance serie have the most logical god figure I have ever seen

Just saying

I was an atheist for a long time and actually found god while trying to defend an argument for atheism ironically enough.

Otherwise i will just carry rocks for the rest of the "afterlife".

I certainly see your point as i've been in your shoes. But i'll say it till I die, "be a good person and there's no logical reason god would hate you"

Did i accidentally start a discussion over God and human ethics? 😅

makes no sense to go through the trouble of creating all this and giving us free will and then never letting us exercise the free will

biblically speaking we didn't have free will. eve (a fucking retarded woman) ate the apple and had us cursed with reality

rather we did*

but eve fucked it up

@Head Scribe Drayanor There's a problem with that statement.

According to the bible you're not pure if you touch a dead pig. So there are many ways where God can be mad with me even if it seems normal to humans.

we did have free will, we choose to eat the apple

It's also a sin to plant crops side by side

@felldie1496 You are ignoring Jesus

Did you consider what I said earlier? God trusted people to spread his word. If there is one thing people love to do it's bullshit for their benefit.

No. That's one of the main problems with Christians. They say "well, it's the old testament".

I don't care, it's "God's word" and he shouldn't contradict himself.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449927561670295554/545483226798358540/WS002566.png if real life have a god it would be like this guy

matthew 22 37-40

Saint John of the Cross said it best, "the knowledge of god is received in divine silence". If you spend all your time listening to god fearers and freaks that clutch their bibles waaay to close to themselves then the idea seems horrid. But if you step back and practice on your own and allow the ideas of god to come to you just as John said. You'll see that the bible is in fact just stories of which the basis for human morals were founded upon

then I wouldn't need a god at all now would I

I repeat the question. Why make all of this, put us here, give us free, and then intervene any time we do something bad? @felldie1496

yeah that's a good question, why would him bother

which is why I believe god is totally this guy https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449927561670295554/545483226798358540/WS002566.png

nigga dodged that question

That's right.

I can barely trust a motherfucker to give me my pen back and im supposed to trust 2000 years of supposedly unadulterated biblical works? Please... I truly feel that god is good and fair and people just use his name to get what they want.

That's a fair point

then at that point you believe a god you believe, not the christian god

@Head Scribe Drayanor Look. If it's god word, i don't think he would have allowed that happened.

just like I believe god is this guy https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449927561670295554/545483226798358540/WS002566.png

If in my life I have done anything that angers God. When I die and stand before God in judgement, if he is just as I believe him to be, he and I will discuss it.

@Victortze lol that's moby dick.

I do believe in the holy trinity, make no mistake. I just don't agree that people have kept the word of god genuine over the years or even from the get go.