I had to touch the stove a few times to find out it's hot

As for voting, my favorite example of why democracy is bad is:

9 out of 10 people approve of a gang rape.

Haha.

Gotta get out of deerborn

@Five, Seven, and Two I see what you did there

Voting should be a thing, but it shouldn't be a right.

@ToastMcGhost <:har:480186132298989569>

It should be earned.

Democracy allows for A and B to band together to rip off C. This is not justice but a moral outrage - Hoppe

You don't have both 10 wolves and 5 sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

Haha

Well, we do right now...

I have a feeling the sheep are the dinner, after the vote of course.

Table manners.

I think I might visit Russia sometime before I die.

Really get my slav on.

Cheeki breeki

Iv damke

About being burnt, it took me a 8-year relationship to wake up. Im 30 now.

8 years... ouch.

yeah that'll do it

Paying for the education so to speak.

Something else I’ve been weighing about universal suffrage is a twist on old pre-20s argument that *women* made against the female vote: a woman social influence gives her the power of more than her own vote.

I’d take another step and say we’re seeing women use the vote of the nearest man and then the collective vote of “her” children to suit her interests.

Sounds about right

yeah id agree thats the case

Anyone who thinks votes in general are independent doesn't understand the power of influence. Influence derives from position of power and there is nothing more powerful than seniorship over your blood relatives.

I’m not sure we could ever reconcile even women who are net taxpayers being allowed to vote, unless they’re also single and childless, or they’ll still wield magnitudes more individual voting power than any man in equal stature.

@Sickswing Exactly that.

Being able to say what you really think is a powerful thing.

It may have seemed like everyone was on Hillary's side, but guess who won the election.

+1 to that.

There's a reason the Republican party is called the silent majority

well she couldnt vote herself welfare or risk losing her net taxpayer status

In fact Hillary was winning until everyone got off work

We should make all voting days federal holidays

@ToastMcGhost Which is the greatest argument *against* democracy, if I’ve ever heard one.

I find it extremely interesting how educated all of you seem to be about something as boring as politics. By no means im an expert at all but I find it extremely convinient that these kind of rational views don't just extend to women in you guys.

“Wouldn’t have lost if the slaves hadn’t been able to show up after working the fields.”

You can get a lot done in a conversation if no ones calling the other people nazis

@Sickswing we have more time without women to think about other things haha

Good points.