is it really worth saving? i do'nt know man why try and save a civilization that wants to enslave you?

if i burn i'm going to smoke and retreat to a cave. 😄

No, western civilization is not worth saving unless you want to save feminism. @shadow007

It’s a tad better then being in the 70% mortality rate of a collapse

It's best to be mgtow, find your meaning, be happy then die of old age.

Enjoy what society has left to offer, we do not have enough time to turn the boat around at the current rate, and it’ll take a massive event to change that

@Deadly Shells true

In fact the most foreseeable event in the coming future would reduce the rate at which the red pill grows I.e the de platforming of all mgtow content

I think they'll just yeet women's rights when they realize it's all gone to shit

But we'll see

Women’s rights will be gone when the government falls cuz everyone’s rights are gone

Sweden is trying to put women's rights on hold to fix it, when that doesn't work maybe they'll offer a more permanent solution

They won't. Muslim men will take Swedish women's rights away for them.

🤷 it's something to watch anyway

@Whats gay anymore Sweden is allrdy fucked with sharia law just like Belgium

Exactly, let's see how they try to solve it

When Sweden falls, so will America and the rest of the world. I have no issue with the west dying though so I hope the muslims enjoy the west.

We fucked up and we're unwilling to change so fuck it.

Sweden is going to collapse much sooner then the rest of the west

Fine, fine. How about we figure out how to cultivate the next round of supreme civilization?

fucking kek @PreschoolFightClub

We could do what the muslims are doing and win or we can keep doing what we're doing now and die.

Muslims are having the gynecentrism sink their claws into them too though

We can't do what the muslims do

We can't. We have triple digit IQs.

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@Xychotic if you make it past the 70 percent mortality rate just breed the right philosophy In what ever groups you come accross

Well, we're going to die with our high IQs.

You have to be a celcius IQ to honestly embrace Islam.

If you're going to use your horsepower to complain about it, yeah.

Btw that 30 percent of people that survive will mostly be women, since men will die in their defence, and the victor will probably take them as his own

What are the chances that women concede their rights once MGTOW hits critical mass?

There is no question about it, they will

Mgtow will never reach critical mass.

But will we reach critical mass? Unlikely

If mgtow does hit critical mass they’ll reee but at the end of the day that amount of men would make it happen

We see white women surrendering their rights to men already, just not to western men.

And western men are the best outcome

If we moved to one town and operated as a block we could do what the muslims do, were just not going to do that

Well, everyone wants to be leader and no one wants to be follower.

Set up mgtown just like they have deerborn