Makes sense @frugalcasper

@frugalcasper *shrugs* I’m willing to pull the brakes whenever they are. Until then, I’ll be at the very back of the train, ready to jump off when I hear the engine run off the rails.

@Five, Seven, and Two Same here. mgtow is freedom

Women have never been net contributors to society outside of providing children. Ever. Through all of history. I’ve done the research.

Mgtow is the most free you can be today

They are never expected to be

Ofc when the collapse comes you’ll be free to do whatever you wish

@frugalcasper They’re quite literally incapable of it.

I'll be honest, I don't think the damage can be healed, I think that marriage is a sham for guys, and things cannot and would not go back to the way they were. For those reasons I'm not against more women in jobs, we just need to better protect our brothers from getting fucked over is all.

The more they work, the more they, in theory, leave us alone.

@Five, Seven, and Two The number of women I've met that complain about simple shit that men have had to do since forever is red pilling enough. They complain about having to work, to pay bills.

Unfortunately, what we’re seeing is that the more they work, the more they cost other taxpayers.

A sad reality...

They want the benefits of being a woman and the benefits of being a man. None of the negatives of either

@Five, Seven, and Two The more they cost taxpayers?

@frugalcasper Just at lunch, was listening to two women bitch about doing dishes. Something I manage, with time to spare, while my food’s in the oven.

@Five, Seven, and Two Clean as you cook. What a fucking concept

It's funny cause I get paid 11 dollars an hour at my job and women sneer a the idea of doing manufacturing. All I do all day is just sit on my ass, drink soda, and watch parts come out of a machine.

You know, "hard shit"

@Head Scribe Drayanor Robots coming for your job, nigga

It's already automated, I don't do shit I just make sure the machine runs

nice

That's my job

If i get this internship I want i'll be making like 14

maybe more

@frugalcasper So, there’s this interesting thing we’re learning now that we have enough data on what it looks like for women to be employed and unmarried for most of their life. Short version is that if a woman’s unmarried and working, she’s more likely to be a single mom, use all her available medical and work benefits, take more time off, retire earlier, has more medical problems, etc.

@Five, Seven, and Two Oh ok. I can certainly believe that unfortunately.

Single women who work to 50+ actually cost the male taxpayer *more*.

What a shame

Here's a philosophical question for yall: if none of this shit had ever happened, no feminism, no fucked up marriages, good gender relations, no nothing, would yall still go mgtow and why? I've heard hermit ask this before and I was always curious how others felt.

They really aren't good for anything except being a repository for children

I would, but that's because I value my freedom

I would potentially have kids later in life to have them but I wouldn't get married in my 20s or 30s

@Head Scribe Drayanor If all of that resulted in my life also taking a different trajectory, maybe? If you’re asking the man I am, right now, absolutely not.

Same, marriage to me, feminism or not, always just seemed to be a draining event

The thing about male psyche is that men are wired to sacrifice.

@Head Scribe Drayanordepends on the available flesh females in my village

I’ve also moved from wanting kids to distinctly not wanting them, which I know sets me statistically apart from a lot of men, so that’s a huge boon of marriage that has no value to me.

*flesh females* I'm fucking done <:lolz:480186121897377792>

Oh fuck kids

No, please *don’t* fuck kids.