I also think a lot of men get sucked into the relationship/sacrifice lifestyle before they even have a chance to understand what their freedom and autonomy means to them

Yes.

Then they get on a roller coaster with no brakes

I was lucky in that I was never the type to jump from one relationship to the next. I always spent at least a year alone and it helped calibrate the senses so to speak

@frugalcasper Exactly it. I was 21 at the time; I can nearly guarantee I would have passed the event horizon before I had any clue what true autonomy looked like (I sure as fuck didn’t know how it truly was, then).

Though, i am going to say something regarding the 8 year ride. I am blessed, in one day. I didn't commit, I didn't destroy myself and I enjoyed a fulfilling and tryhard relationship. It helped me truly understand the "relationship" part better. This can be incredibly beneficial as men who are 25, 26 even 35 can sometimes desperately want LTR.

That decreases motivation to be great.

And without that motivation its hard to be great at life.

@Five, Seven, and Two That's a fucking great way to explain it. The Event Horizon

I can confidently work 11 hours in a day and feel my day has been worth it now.

In my early 20s that was not possible. I always felt lacking.

I like that too. Event horizon.

There is a line which you cross there's only coming back with your feet first.

@frugalcasper If there’s any regret that I have, it’s *how* I left, but certainly not *that* I left.

@Sickswing Yea, society revolves around men feeling like they are lacking. Always having to sacrifice for this or that

Society and women don't want a man who is confident in his work and sure of his life's purpose

They want you confused and always seeking approval

The polarity is truly incredibly. I never knew how powerful I was.

@Five, Seven, and Two Good for you man. The key thing is that you left and were able to realize what you needed

@frugalcasper Shameless plug: I’m linking you my video I’m working on once it’s up. Really want to know your thoughts.

Compared to the average dude who lives in mental jail.

@Five, Seven, and Two absolutely

Say a little prayer for our brothers who never got to taste what it is they really want. Always chasing something that isn't real

Lot of time left wandering between leaving and realizing what I needed, but I wouldn’t be who I am without it and I don’t regret that, either.

How long have you guys been in LTR's tops? If at all.

@Five, Seven, and Two That's the thing right. We are who we are in part because of what we went through.

shalom mgtow brotdas

Me like 2 weeks. I was 16 and didn't know better. I pretty soon got enough of her shit. @Sickswing

i have a question to ask you all

@Five, Seven, and Two Your approach is great. It's such a positive spin to be proud of what you've become instead of damaged.

What

should i make a book where i express hatred and stereotypes to every group or race in the world?

@Sickswing Cumulatively? I was a serial monogamist with sprints of one night stands from 18 to 31... so maybe 10 years, all told?

i just want to watch the world reeeee to hell

@frugalcasper WHat is it that men really want and how does a man become confident in his work and sure of his life's purpose?

If you want to do that go right ahead

@Five, Seven, and Two Longest single LTR?

@Roko That answer is different for every man. I don't know exactly what I want to do with the rest of my life but I know that my life's purpose is to live it as free of mind as I can. It's the pursuit of autonomy. I also get joy and fulfillment from interacting with other men and possibly helping them, even if it's just a little.

@frugalcasper I see. That's a nice answer.

@Sickswing 2 years.

It's the second reason I'm here. The first being the bantz and the lulz