@Deep Fried Jesus lol, i was agreeing with you

You breathe it! Fuck it! And lick it alittle

why aim it at me, and not the person saying "wealth inequality is bad M'kay?" Then? Say it to kragt

@Deep Fried Jesus You need to call down my dude. You made a statement about wealthy inequality and I agreed and pinged you on it

(((Inequality)))

@frugalcasper On your note of company towns. Do not remove agency from the common man. The people at company towns accepted the deal there because there was no other better deal. And if there was one they could have left.
It was a system that did not allow for social mobility so it could not last forever (eventually the workers will burn them down,) and I agree the deal may not be fair but the people had to choose to work there to begin with and they had their free will (to the extent any human has it) the whole time.
The fact that they did not have a better option than a company town means that they would have been worse off without it than with it.

It may be shitty and horrifying but starvation is even moreso.

@BigTyrone don’t be a racist

no u

@TruceAU dont hate the gays, if he wants to fuck andrew yang in an honest mannerdont shame him.

no u

I just jumped in

@Kragt I agree with what you are saying. It is impossible to now what opportunities these people might have had without the coal mining company there. If there were some regulation in place than those people could have had a choice to not starve but also not live in a company town

@Kragt All I am saying is that capitalism without regulation is a race to the bottom. It's wealth inequality maximized. Wealth inequality is a good thing as we want people to have incentives to take risk but it can't be allowed to run rampant

Ultimately I think we agree and this is just semantics

@frugalcasper But all you're pointing to is when socialists fuck it up. Is it a failing of capitalism when social programs make the system untenable?

@Deep Fried Jesus I pointed to the example of company towns? Is that socialism fucking up capitalism?

What about Child labor?

What about triangle shirt waist factory fire?

What Tyrone says. If doing 13 hours of paperwork everyday isn't fucking work, I don't know what is.

I would rather my kids worked that exist in some shithole commie leftard brainwashing facility.

@frugalcasper The likely outcome is that the regulation would have lowered the profits and made the company hire less workers. The average person pays more for coal and some of those people who did work would now starve.
And yeah I am fine with your general idea. Ancap doesnt work because people will collude and same with liberterianism. ... or however the fuck you spell it.
But saying there should not be company towns is like saying there should be a minimum wage. The intent is nice (making sure people get a liveable wage) but the effect just hurts people (people who cannot provide more value than the min wage just get nothing at all)

@Kragt The notion of having to accept a job that pays you in money that you can only spend in a store run by the company you work for is what happens with unchecked capitalism. Unchecked capitalism destroys capitalism and creates monopolies. Communism is a monoloply. Unchecked capitalism is replacing .gov with .com

@BigTyrone agreed, said it before too

*nods* I agree. Just saying be aware of the tradeoffs. There are no solutions, only tradeoffs.

Send kids to gulags for education

@Kragt We are discussing things that the whle of humanity has been unable to solve in thousands of years lol

Doesn't that describe any country having its own currency?

Britain staying on the pound is unchecked capitalism? Hot take, but I agree.

@Deep Fried Jesus Imagine living in America which has the dollar and being paid in McDonald's money

@frugalcasper Because the whole of humanity is comprised of people of different capacities all vouching for their own good.

@Kragt This is why a system like the EU is retarded.

If Mcdonald funny money isn't worth anything, nobody works for Mcdonalds funny money. Its as simple as that.

@Deep Fried Jesus Except the situation I described did happen

Welp I need to not be sober.
So I will leave with this quote.
"Philsophy is just provoking thought. It is not philsophy that makes you a dick, but that you were already a dick... or put more poetically... the dick was in you all along." - Some guy on the internet.

@BigTyrone Who the hell is Andrew Yang?

Probably because the comapny towns worked, and the stories we get decades later about how horrible they were are emblished for political reasons.

I'm back. What's going on?

@Deep Fried Jesus Some how I don't think company towns worked for anyone but the company

Meow meow beans

@frugalcasper Democratic candidate, Stardusk talked about him recently saying good things since he addresses questions that honestly no other politician is. In terms of what do we do when lots of people lose their jobs to AI and how do we handle those people.