Not it is not my first language, you are correct there

I thought so, given the time of day we started, assuming you are on a "normal" sleep cycle you would have to be somewhere in europe

@Whats gay anymore Enforcers?

I am actually in Asia, but from Europe

ah I see

@AVRO Architect I must agree you are very good a defending your points mate

What do you mean enforcers

I was taking engineering in college, i had to develop my skill in debating my points to be taken seriously

engineers are quite difficult to work with at the best of times let alone challenge their ideas

@Whats gay anymore Somebody that enforce the will of somebody else using force?

So the military are enforcers ok

No argument there

I believe you had a different point though

I did engineer too mate 😉

no the military are less enforces and more a force for enacting violence

You know there are enforcers in gangs too?

I could extend their role to enforcing the will of a sovereign nation for the sake of an argument

the idea of "peace keeping" misuses the military

@AVRO Architect You are actually very right with that point

the military is primarily supposed to wage war or defend in war

That association is meaningless

I enforce my will

Am I a gang?

@Whats gay anymore That is also correct. What is a sovereign nation?

its less enforcing will and more " the final form of negotiation" being the last one alive

@Whats gay anymore If you want to nitpick, yes you are

An independent country

Your definition of gang is so flimsy that everything is a gang

My 2 year old niece is a gang

My cat is a gang

gang
/ɡaNG/
noun

1.
an organized group of criminals.

again from oxford

@Whats gay anymore It is actually, and it is not my definition.

What definition sees gang as anything that enforces?

@AVRO Architect Correct, and who can honestly say they have never broken a law?

i think our biggest problem tonight is that we do not have a common definition for many of the words and concepts we have been using

Well this definition of gang makes me a gang

So I think the argument is moot

@AVRO Architect I agree with you on the definition

the key word was "organized" in the phrase "organized criminals"

It is, and you kind of need more than one person