I don't have any solutions because at this point there is no solution.

Republicans screw up every chance they have at turning the ship around.

and you have arrived to that conclusion because?

Because that's what's been happening for the past 50 years.

because whether gop or dnc, the establishment is always the same.

but it wants to give you the people the facade of actual political rivalry.

> it's been always like that so nothing will ever change

talk about fatalism

if nothing ever changes what's the point of doing anything?

Acquire a peaceful spirit, and around you thousands will be saved. Saint Seraphim of Sarov.

Because if we do something, there is at least a chance things will turn out alright. If we do nothing, things are guaranteed not to turn out all right.

^ bingo

but i think that we can agree that brexit is the blackest pill out there

they are waay beyond saving

because it's either an EU shill or UK's own Chavez

Britain has a better chance than America.

lmao

Peter Hitchens years ago on advising young people in the UK he said" just leave the country."

^

@Thomas O'Malley idk why you are so whiny, you are doing way better than western europe

"we are doomed"

anything that comes from the UK is the staff of pure Orwellian horror

why do you think 1984 came out of the UK?

America is only 60% white.

counting Italians out i see.

Also, Europe doesn't have the same tradition of democracy as America.

Europe doesn't have vigilant patriots

There is no way to vote ourselves out of this mess.

and second amendment

Vigilant patriots who don't do anything but talk.

Trump doesn't do anything but tweet.

shooting up places isn't the answer

running for congress and trying to change even if it's not successful is

Europeans could overthrow their corrupt leaders and install dictators because they have been democracies for only about a century, if that long.

overthrow with what

Americans are too squeamish and too supportive of democracy.

we are just going to receive new leaders every four years or so

democracy is an institution with high variability among countries, the idea a Swiss has of democracy and its implementation is different from that of an Italian, a Brit, a Russian

Europe has a tradition of kings. America has a tradition of presidents. A king can stop this nonsense. A president can't.

the reason is that Europe has true nations binding them with thousands of years of tradition

what's the alternative to democracy? Benevolent dictatorship? I'm no constitutional scholar but i'm sure that was not what the founding fathers intended @Thomas O'Malley