Message from @Grump The Horrible
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No ones mind gets changed through facts on guns, shootings, statistics, ect... Do you think they wouldn't push gun control if we had a better spokesman?
Of course they don't care, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't.
We don't need people on our side doing what they do.
https://my.mixtape.moe/rlsdxg.webm
I highly recommend this.
These are both excellent videos.
My perspective from arguing with a lot of anti-gun people is that they do not come to their conclusions from a realistic standpoint (world is violent) they are weak willed and weak minded. They fight on the battlefield of emotional rhetoric. So why would someone on "our side" try and win people over by saying "oh an AR-15 isn't an Assault Rifle" or "The shootings only happen in gun free zones..." and al those platitudes witch have been repeated ad nauseam. They do not care and want to eventually take guns. My perspective is that we just call these people faggots, weaklings, and moral cowards. They seem unwilling to be convinced of facts or reason. Justicar's videos are fine, but again they preach to the choir. No one likes being frames as pussies and basic bitches and I think we should just bullcide people who are gun grabbers. Facts convince people who are on the fence (sometimes) or want to be convinced. overwhelmingly it looks like the people who want to take firearms are not going to be convinced, just like they won't talk me out of my position on weaponry.
I do like those videos
There are quite a few in the comments who were made America loving patriots by The Justicar.
(He is a mathematician, can set out proper arguments.)
I am not denying that
He certainly changed my mind on a lot of things.
Do you think most people are convinced by proper argumentation?
if you do you have a lot more faith in people than I do
In any case, insulting people is one thing (Justicar does a lot of that), outright bullshit is another.
This is no excuse for lies.
Lies and bullshit from 2A peiple help gun grabbers gain more ground.
We want the opposite of that, so hard-hitting, but honest rhetoric, and outright insults are the way to get there.
I should hope so.
but I can vote him out
And relegate him to the margins.
So, watched all of both videos?
yes but the whole of the NRA is fine
I watched both when they came out
he is a sub of mine
Ah, me too.
I watch them all very shortly after they come out, always a treat.
Watching him rip and tear into even friends of his when they say stupid things is something else.
@Grump The Horrible NOTHING will save you from his destructive, harsh truths if you say dumb things and get too smug about it.
Even his friendship.
yes that's how most people get to in life. Most of my friends have left a long time ago but new friends and my couple old ones who stuck around regardless of the mistakes I have made or my friends have made. I can take criticism (I wouldn't have gotten far in the Army if I let every stupid mistake grind me down)
he is just an honest broker
Yup.
Brutally honest, it's wonderful.
I will say this though. getting woman is an area were being an honest broker/brutally honest is not always advised
"you look lovely in that dress"
lol
Luckily for him, he's gayer than a true foot-tapping Republican.