Message from @Largezo112
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@Thomas O'Malley you can’t beat the left at their own game
And besides the conservative / right political faction is too divided to achieve anything
What’s the common goal across the western world? To serve salty tears to liberals by getting Trump re-elected
@Largezo112 Maybe you're right that we can't beat the Left at their own game. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try. What's the alternative? To continue failing?
To minimize losses
And that means not getting sucked into the vortex of identity politics
And to influence people in the grassroots level
At this point, identity politics is inevitable. You would be a sucker not to engage in identity politics.
Lasting change is not going to happen but if we start to play with the left’s rules we’ll become indistinguishable from them
Don’t say I didn’t warn you
No, we will be indistinguishable from the Left if we adopt their moral and ideological premises.
We will not become like the Left if we use their tactics, which have been astonishingly successful.
I understand the appeal especially when shit is hitting the fan but it’s not the right move in the long run
Why not?
Ok describe to me how to adopt identity politics without atomizing the individual?
And how to avoid going too far?
You have to think this from the average joe’s pov
Blacks, Mestizos, and Muslims have all adopted identity politics without being atomized. In facts, Whites, who shun identity politics, are by far the most atomized race.
He sees people calling for european / American identity which to him equals nazis, that’s ridiculous when you think about it but that’s how conditioning works
Only way to reverse that is to take back the institutions
We don’t have 50 years
Either whites rediscover their racial consciousness, which they had for all of their existence until World War II, or they will cease to exist.
And before they go extinct, they will be disenfranchised in the nations they created.
That’s just not going to happen like magic
It takes decades of cultivation
We are out of time
We're screwed then.
What do you mean by "if we play by the left’s rules we’ll become indistinguishable from them?"
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The black community hasn’t benefited from identity politics
In fact the prolems with ghettos and reliance on social security exist because they have been goven the identity of a victim
And being a gang member and doing poorly in school is in some areas like south side (Chicago) an integral part of black identity
Identity politics in general create “us vs them” mentality which isn’t great for societal cohesion
Add that a heterogeneous demographic and you have stability problems down the line
So doubling down on something which has caused many problems for the US is not a wise move because all that adopting identity politics does is that it makes pre-existing problems worse
i would disagree
<:Thoughts:408715607555702784> nogs going to nog... pulse low iq
you can't compare gibs monkeys to fascists