@Largezo112 Maybe you're right that we can't beat the Left at their own game. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try. What's the alternative? To continue failing?

To minimize losses

And that means not getting sucked into the vortex of identity politics

And to influence people in the grassroots level

At this point, identity politics is inevitable. You would be a sucker not to engage in identity politics.

Lasting change is not going to happen but if we start to play with the left’s rules we’ll become indistinguishable from them

Don’t say I didn’t warn you

No, we will be indistinguishable from the Left if we adopt their moral and ideological premises.

We will not become like the Left if we use their tactics, which have been astonishingly successful.

I understand the appeal especially when shit is hitting the fan but it’s not the right move in the long run

Why not?

Ok describe to me how to adopt identity politics without atomizing the individual?

And how to avoid going too far?

You have to think this from the average joe’s pov

Blacks, Mestizos, and Muslims have all adopted identity politics without being atomized. In facts, Whites, who shun identity politics, are by far the most atomized race.

He sees people calling for european / American identity which to him equals nazis, that’s ridiculous when you think about it but that’s how conditioning works

Only way to reverse that is to take back the institutions

Which takes decades

We don’t have 50 years

Either whites rediscover their racial consciousness, which they had for all of their existence until World War II, or they will cease to exist.

And before they go extinct, they will be disenfranchised in the nations they created.

That’s just not going to happen like magic

It takes decades of cultivation

We are out of time

We're screwed then.

What do you mean by "if we play by the left’s rules we’ll become indistinguishable from them?"

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The black community hasn’t benefited from identity politics

In fact the prolems with ghettos and reliance on social security exist because they have been goven the identity of a victim

And being a gang member and doing poorly in school is in some areas like south side (Chicago) an integral part of black identity

Identity politics in general create “us vs them” mentality which isn’t great for societal cohesion

Add that a heterogeneous demographic and you have stability problems down the line

So doubling down on something which has caused many problems for the US is not a wise move because all that adopting identity politics does is that it makes pre-existing problems worse

@Thomas O'Malley

i would disagree

<:Thoughts:408715607555702784> nogs going to nog... pulse low iq

you can't compare gibs monkeys to fascists

fighting for a homeland and the survival of your people .... vs wanting gibs for walmart food and beer money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI5G8sGxZFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cACUG6daV-4