and we all know that ain't the truth

@Roxgor Nah there's at least one good one out there i think. My one female firend, she empathizes with mgtow, appreciates the value of being a stay at home mom, cooks, cleans, is loyal to her man and family, etc.

my girlfriend is pretty much that, BUT S T I L L

i have heard far too many stories of girls being like that

then doing an 180

a 180*

@Roxgor Well then i'm going to say that you have your proof that not all women are megalomaniacs. Yeah many, even most have ego's the size of texas, but not all.

@GingerSnaps the true test if you think you have a unicorn is you go home tell the chick you've been fired and your car is gonna be repossessed, only then will you know if it's real

@Reaper I had that, at least i think i did. And as far as my female friend, it's tough to say but i think that she would struggle to make ends meet with her man. Help him get back on his feet, take on an extra job if it's possible, etc.

@GingerSnaps you still can't let your guard down around them

Female solipsism in and of itself is not necessarily a net negative in the larger scope of human survival and evolution. On the surface that may seem a bit outrageous, but it’s only outrageous insofar as women’s solipsistic natures come into conflict with the biological and social imperatives of men. This solipsism is the necessary result of a feminine survival instinct that’s helped preserve women and their offspring in a violent, chaotic and uncertain evolution. - Rollo Tomassi

or you will end up like i did

her begging me to break up with her, shit tests all the time, ungratefulness

trust me dude

all are the saem

same*

they are only as good as you allow them to be

as bad*

the nicer you are, the worse they get

that's axiomatic

@GingerSnaps the fact is when you engage in cohabitation or marriage you are pledging to keep her happy forever regardless if how her "feelings" change and you stand to have your wallet pulled through your ass at her slightest whim

it came to a point where

i came back from a vipassana retreat (a meditation seminar)

i came back traumatized essentially

i was good, nice, giving her massages and shit

she told me i was ungrateful and selfish

fucking all women are the same

ungrateful T H O T S

@GingerSnaps it's like I have friends I consider to be brothers and im closer with than my family members but if you told me if we had a serious argument dude could cut 3 of my fingers off if I disagree I'm steering clear of their ass, that's way too much risk

as much as i despise PUA

some things they say do work

only if you're semi-attractive to begin with though

you can't be a nice guy

ever

not even genuinely nice

it just reeks of weakness

@Reaper I'll agree with your first statement, but i'm not sure i understand the second.

@GingerSnaps the point is people change, if your girl can wake up any day and ruin your life the fact she is the perfect spouse TODAY holds less weight, you don't know what will happen in her life or how it will effect her, the only guarantee is if ANYTHING goes wrong, you are fucked

true

that's why i expect nothing

absolutely nothing