society says your purpose should be for it. and women.

@GingerSnaps That's extremely easy and not worthwhile to me. Maybe that is the problem.

i say. your purpose should be for yourself. i would find a hobby that you are passionate about.

and start there.

Ok, I will start there.

but its difficult. because every person haa to find their own thing. i cant tell you the right way to go about it

Find your gift, what your passions are and give it away. If you want to make hard sacrifices, focus on meeting some mgtow's in real life and sacrifice for them. @empiru

but yea. i would start with a hobby you are passionate about. and focus on self improvement.

thats a good base. because at the worst you have improved your life and are doing something you enjoy

Oh, man. Whiteknighting for women is just gonna distract you from your purpose. You just chase temporary feel-good emotions. Validation.

I agree with shadow.

Internal validation > external validation

Yes

thats the goal. its not easy to get there tho

^^

Ironically you have to start with external validation

I guess that is where I am stuck. I am young, in excellent shape (6 pack), have no debts, make bank and save a lot. I don't really know what to focus on next.

Anything.

Think hard and write down your goals.

Currently I'm learning programming and it's fun and gives me peace of mind, plus it is a ROI.

i would say just for now. look for a hobby you really enjoy. because if you have something to do it will help you stay productive. even if the hobby isnt super productive

When I was in school/dating/family life, external motivation/competition pushed me. Now, I am an "adult" living alone in my own place yet I feel empty without purpose.

Volunteer for a male homeless shelter? There's so many males struggling because society doesn't allow for places for them.

You don't compare yourself with others.

You compare the past you with the current you

I work as a developer so that is awesome. After 50 hours a week, it loses its flavor a little so I have been trying to give myself a break.

See how far you've gone. As a person, as a human being.

@GingerSnaps That's an excellent idea.

@hel Good idea. I try to use that with fitness.

I understand what you mean. I reached a decent level at music making and now I'm taking a break from it

It's natural man. The flow of life. Everything is temporary. Comes and goes.

Enjoy the shitshow.

I recommend reading TRP sidebar

Besides the PUA stuff it does a great job explaining female nature and what it means to be a man

Yes, I am reading the rationale male and feminist lie.

Rational male is good. But at the same time I don't really trust Rollo.

I think the trp subreddit is down?

He takes 'alpha' way too seriously.

There's a PDF version somewhere.

I started with red man group and found mgtow from the tfm/ddj chat.

I think they're hung up on female validation. I only know because I am too.