Second reason: voting in here (Brasil) is a duty, not a right

This whole ddj v. tfm is not nearly as bad as you guys made it seem to be.

voting isn't a real right. not everyone should have it.

I know. Seems more a "wake up call"

We could make a case that rights aren't even real.

anything that has to be provided to you is not a right. that's where i draw the line.

@Xychotic yeah I did not see it as so negative either

OK, what if instead of taking voting rights....

Could the level of duty and responsabilities being passed to the owners of the rights?

I understand that was a thing.

If mgtow is a philosophy then it's merit must always be tested and the details discussed

Taking away voting rights won't change much then why should I care about what woman do anyways?

Like, before women's suffrage, there were military nurses that were given the right to vote because they had skin in the game.

@Reaper This statement 110%

Those rights.... Seems more like priviledges

The main purpose of taking away the woman's vote is to stop migrant importation and the shrinking of the welfare state.

@EmptyEagle personally I care cause woman expand the welfare state, but since I am clear my feelings have no bearing on reality I know it won't happen

Anything that requires paperwork or a signature isn't a right.

Hmm.... Peharps it's necessary to abandon the word "right" and use "priviledge"

Rights are a fiction that makes society work.

I heard that in Germany, if you give Angela Merkel a ``REALLY`` good rim job, she'll actually grant you legit freedom.

Take womens priviledges!!

What? She'll kill you?

Make you free *of this mortal coil*?

Like I'm not sure how that would be possible without violence. I'm just not sure TWRA can solve everything as some seem to believe.

I know how it could be done.

I think @Reaper makes a valid point about men's collective pimp hand and taking away women's rights. I'm listening to ddj's video now.

I'm just looking for a third idea, I seem to always want a third option in life.

Take women’s rights meoway

There'd be a war if we tried to take women's rights. But a way much worth fighting.

hold the government hostage, no payments for welfare, hold it until the vote is complete and welfare is done

@shababat meh idk about all that

There might be a few riots.

A few?

Yeah, just a handful.

The ones with the least to lose will be rioting.

Since I'm trying to play devils advocate, who is willing to die trying to take the government over to get rid of welfare?

You come back and tell them taxes are coming down big time.

@shababat it would be worth it if we won...we would not

@EmptyEagle I have the third idea

I mean, women did the stupid ass 'Womens March' just because a non-PC dude won an election.