21 Convention should have stayed tf out of this.

They didn't have the sense to

What is the 21 Convention?

I disapprove of all of this.

Why do they matter?

Days of Our MGTOW Lives.

That's it.

I title this

People can't just not go in on the monkey

The Red Pill Wars

DDJ is an object lesson in why you should move toward yourself as a man, not just away from women. He made no bones about being anti-feminist as a foundational aspect.

I'd like to see this vented tonight, then never mentioned again

tbh, I don't listen to either of them that much and I kind of don't want to watch either anymore.

The main commercial product of the Red Man Group. DDJ has been working himself into the group and Rollo invited DDJ to speak at the next event

@Xychotic I think that's an entirely reasonable stance to take.

just watched tfms vid lol

@Xychotic I have to agree. Not much reason to watch them post acceptance anyway

21 Studios stand by DDJ? What the fuck does that supposed to mean? Way to push into a personal feud...

Odd for sure

I havent even heard about the 21 convention or the red man group but whatever

I watch TFM for entertainment, at this point. huMAN's more my speed and while I greatly appreciate HHH, I listen to him the way I listen to old sermons: I know it's not for me, but it's excellent reaffirmation.

21 convention is some big pua/red-pill/not-MGTOW thing

red man group is in the same vein.

If you've heard about Entrepreneurs in Cars, then you've heard about RMG

They think knowing the red pill gives them an advantage in the game.

They've made a big business out of it

For me, TFM red pilled me, huMAN was a great bridge through the grief phases, and HHH has me thinking about my future

so they're tradcucks

It's like, "The guillotine is meant to cut your head off, I'm going to put my head in the slot knowing this."

I do not trust them

They're not to be trusted

"And so it won't cut my head off."

*lop*

@Xychotic Oh, that's the public speaking/convention arm of RMG, yeah? (21 Studios)

Especially knowing that TFM doesn't gel with them, especially that black dude

No, I don't think they're directly related.

More a business relationship?

Though Rich was on one of the 21 events.

That explains a thing or two

Might as well be a feminine trad-thot, chasing the $$$

golddigging DDJ