contribute as in for example, "Would you work as a doctor and help people for the same wage that you work for an easier job? (Garbage Man)

like, working to help others when it's a job. But it's the same wage as an easier job that does less for others

Why don't we just abolish wage labor and let people do whatever they want?

That sounds more like freedom to me than "contribute or starve"

TFM: "JuST TaKe WaHmEn's RiGhTs aWaY!"

as if women and the men that are sympathetic to them won't just set up the same problems again lol

I'm not even in favor of "rights" per se either

I just find TFM's position to be reactionary and detrimental to the very men that he claims ought to be free...

"Freedom with constraints"

One of the many contradictions of our society and MGTOW alike.

Taking women's right away?

Its one of TFM's stupid "solutions" to make society better

how the fuck will that happen with the cuck boys leap frogging in front and behind women?

In TFM's model... the stronger men will kill them.

AKA the Muslims

ITS NOT HAPPENING LOL

unless Middle East invades US then

He usually talks about europe

Germany being completely female?

"Muh Moose-limes are gonna take over Europe and fuck muh Western Culture"

He means that because of the immigration issue involving Europe, the Middle East and Africa, that because women will submit to "brutal savages" that women will have no choice but to submit to the Muslim immigrants of the country...

Implying that Muslim men are "brutal savages"

Its a bigoted and dogshit way of looking ay Muslim men.

I'm not going to defend religion, because its dogshit too, but stereotyping men and preventing them from being able to live better lives is horrific.

Lol

Not going to lie though, TFM's ideas on Sex Dolls/Robots is pretty neat

I just think that his politics and economics is dog shit

Didn't TFM get kicked out from MGTOW because of sex dolls LMAO

I guess?

but why

A bunch of MGTOW did start to not like him because of his sexual habits...

it's not women he's doing it with

MGTOW isn't supposed to be a club per se...

So "kicked out" probably isn't the right term...

I'd rather say that much of the community started to look at him unfavorably

Howard dare mentioned that in a video somewhere in late 2017

But I get it now

Howard Dare mentioned that MGTOW isn't a club?

or did he say that TFM isn't MGTOW anymore because of his sexual habits?

2nd

gotcha