Gibbons evolved out of chimps in an isolated area. TFM has a video about this.

noted.

Gibbons evolved for smaller males (cooperation) because there wer no predators.

what happened to them? Stomped out?

Chimps are one of our closest ancestors.

The females trade fruit for sxual access.

the more you know

Gibbons will be overthrown by humans if they get hungry enough.

Into the stewpot, feminist chimps!

Gibbons still exist. Sopolski still studies them for stress responses.

But I can't name a female dominate culture. Amazons?

nein, neither can I. which means they're secret knowledge or none lasted

Cooperation is great in groups of less than 100, after that, dimishing returns.

diminishing

I've been trying to tie MGTOW talking points to biology, in my studies.

That forms a strong argument, when you can point at chimps and say, "Deny that misandrists!"

that actually makes a lot of sense

But now i'm curious, why (major?) in bio?

I'm not in college, but I pursue ideas like I am.

self taught. NICE

Cheaper too

Study Your Own Way

nice

It's easier to see the ego in others than ourselves.

To be fair, we're all biased.

Whe you can take the talking points out of the me-you-us dynamic, and say look at them (chimps) even women will sometimes concede. 😲

Female chimps trade fruit for sexual access. Do think prostitution will ever go away?

uh... no. Peeps find a way

"If there's a will, there's a way."

@Termer I get where your coming from in the discussion, with the "we need to have kids" statement. However, your addressing mgtow as if it wants everyone to be MGTOW. A new generation will always exist because people will always be having children. If the information is out there, they will find it.

depends on how hard one wants to try

The idea of the correct person is a flawed idea as it comes with the assumption that MGTOW believe women are innately evil, which fundamentally it does not. It acknowledges the darkside of female nature, however gynocentrism only catalyses and makes evolutionary instincts like hypergamy more harmful to men @Termer

MGTOW men don't need to have children, but if they wish to take on proteges they are free to do so

... thats if the courts let them

I am Neegan.

Lol they will let them adopt

@Flushtater neegan is a nice name

cool name

Yes, I don't understand that whole let's try and outbreed them argument. Ideas live on.

Exactly. Philosophy always arises. The next generation of men who are smart enough will see the system for what it is

I'm also Spratacus, if you are playing the home version.⚔