If we are losers. Then why do talk to us>?

True @Mysteriedingens So delusional. Where does it end? Lol

go start a male feminist MGTOW community then

come brag to us how successful that is

I wish you good look in being a good loyal beta buxx

my ancestors fought in the fucking civil war, thats how

I'm also a veteran

Iraq war?

Hey soy boy where's your chin

Hehe ok I'm out

@MadShangi Give me some examples of the modern society benefitting men.

afghanastan actually

had a bunch of sergeants in my company from iraqi war

they can if they pay into the government more then they take out

@MadShangi I never claimed to desire to take womens rights away but they have more governmental support for example alimonys

They serve less time in prisons

I personally don't think women should vote

But there are some measurements that have to be taken to get back to the state of having equal oppurtinities

At the moment masculin beliefs are opressed by feminists

for it being a traditionalism fantasy, he sure gets most of his opposition from those very people =.=

getting opposition cannot be confused with oppression

For feminists male beliefs are depicted as oppression while female beliefs are taken as opposition

this is where the problem is originated

now I'm geniunely interested

so madshangi, do you date women?

whats your routine like?

LOL! You could've been cordial like this in the voice chat, @MadShangi.

so I get it then, you're what can be described as a MGTOW monk?

congratulations

but there are thoes types of MGTOWs who carry the slogan like religious zealots, similar kinda to the inquisition

I refer to those types as monks too

@MadShangi why do you treat incels as lower beings

incel is a state while mgtow is a decision

I wrote a whole document describting the various types of MGTOWs, I'm considering doing a video on it

incel means "involuntary celibate"

incel is more similar to feminists then to MGTOWs, but the difference is they can be helped

i don't know this guy but you don't seem to feel empathy for ugly guys that have to fight even more to get respect for their work

if you get your face burnt in a housefire and you turn into an incel because of that visual downgrade what makes you better than him

incels blaim everyone but themselves. source of their problem is lack of female attention. Thats what makes it simular to feminism. But the incels are in a war their destined to lose. So bringing them over to MGTOW can really save them

the thing is you most often consider an incel to a sociopath which is not particularly true

he is imprisoned by false desires, which is sad