Student Debt Doesn't mean anything tho.

It is just a means to control the population

Student debt can be forgiven or written off

Debt slavery you mean

Exactly what I mean

Women going to college just increased the schism between the sexes

Weakening the family unit, weakening overall society and all that jazz.

That's true.

Controlling Population/Laws/Wealth/resources is the governments main Job, without it Society goes to shit

There needs to be a governing body as a society gets larger, it's why the native Americans ended up a conquered people. Imagine if they were a truly United society as opposed to scattered tribes that still made war upon each other

Even if they were United , they would Still end up with the same Problems as population and technology increases

Yes

We need to figure out What actually works and how to keep Negative Human Nature in check

Even then that is no guarantee they could of resisted the Europeans

I think reinstating a system of values like Augustus did when he became Emperor may be a possible avenue

@ZODD easy make the smart people that can reason and understand the implications of the social contract reproduce more. Dumb dumbs no reproduce, society is now better

@Rhunespire it's interesting that you say Scattered tribes is That Not MGTOW YouTube channels nowadays ?? 🤔 🔥 🔥 🔥

@Null hahahaha, smart people reproducing doesn't mean the offspring will be Superior to other beings. I've seen DUMB ASS parents give birth to Geniuses. Maybe ur one of them

I was making a very simplified argument for eugenics. It is a lot more nuanced then that. I guess I ruffled your feathers.

eugenics doesn't work because of personal interests

Sexual selection you mean.

When anyone mentions eugenics it ruffles feather

But we already have a world wide eugenics program in place; vaccines

That is not eugenics.

How is not?

Eugenics is more u have bad genes , so Fuck ur offspring

Eugenics is a stand in for reproductive selective pressures on a population once that population is more or less stable.

Essentially they won't be subject to natural selection because of society and advances in medicine.

I understand that, but I'm what getting is that we have something in place already, perhaps tagging it as eugenics may have been a bit hasty but there are similarities in the goal that is being accomplished

@ZODD concerning mgtow channels and scattered tribes that was unintended parallel

But that's a point I'd like to address

No because vaccines and other advances in medicine treat the symptoms of the underlying is of the genetic predisposition. If that predisposition did not exist there would be no need to treat it.

Go ahead

Vaccines treat the symptoms? Are you mad? I haven't contracted polio, smallpox etc

We have the genetic vulnerability to contract those diseases. Stop twisting words.

I wasnt twisting anything. Unless the information presented on how vaccines work has intentionally been misrepresented

Vaccines is your position, and you misinterpreted how it being an advancement in medicine could remedy the symptoms of genetic predisposition. In this case being the diseases that you mentioned polio, small pox etc.

Do vaccines cure diseases, yes or no?

Strawmaning my argument yes or no?

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You're putting words in my mouth