its like the example they give is do not mistake the finger thats pointing to the moon as the moon

so mgtow is the same its not really the end goal but its a ideology that will help u get there

@hel I DMed you a website with the Info you wanted.

Lol its like I walked away years ago been on a peaceful monk like path but when you look back at the plantation and they are turning kids into tannies pre puberty, its like "hello darkness"

Makes you want to fight back huh?

@Peace & Quiet initially yes but then you realize not only will you be ripped to shit for doing so, it likely won't stop shit, whatever this shit is its already gone prime time and world wide, I don't believe those kinds of things happen by accident

@matthias09 Well I think there are 2 tar pits that kind of messed up mgtow. The first one is getting stuck in the anger/Depression that is sometimes is called the black pill and the second is when people get stuck in the Brotherhood and never accually self-actualized. They just talk in these discord servers and never find a goal.

yeah a lot of people are stuck in the "red pill rage"

i agree with you

100%

and the 2nd part a lot of them just talk and circle jerk each other and never go find something to do with their life

So falling in either one kind of make you not really going your own way anymore. Your just trapped in a standstill.

thats some solid points

Dont call it too soon. Others take longer to self actualize

I know

also the 3rd one that messed them up is incels being banned off every every platform so they trying to blend in with mgtow thats a big part

so when u see some questionable people they are just incels looking for a home

why should we pity them

?

I know, but sometimes they do say stuff that might get the whole server banned.

I dont pity them. They have to get the fuck out of there mindset

i meen i somewhat feel sorry for them because a lot of them

are just misguided

a lot of them they just get hurt sooo badly and they dont know how to direct their anger and furstration

I understand them and know they could have ended up there but they have to look within just like everyone else

and then all of them connect into one place, you get a circlejerk of frustration and rage, finding "likeminded" people makes it harder to change for them

Id never refuse to help if they ask but if they just try to convince you on something then im out

Yeah, only they can really help themselves out of that situation. We can give them info to help the process but only they can stop the circlejerk of hate.

if internet didn't exist (an extreme example) i guarantee incels wouldn't exist, they would just say "ok fuck it i'mma try my luck at the self improvement thingy"

Or they probably kill themselves

you'd surprised what cornered animals can do

@hel geez your a mean one, Mr hel

Or more of them would do things like Columbine.

yes, that's me

meanie

Yup more mass shooting

So it might help the problem a little but it's not helping them solve the problems.

Yeh

That's kind of the reason I like to learn psychology. To figure a way for people like this to fix themselves.

You can only show the door

They have to do the walk