Look into yourself. That's how you start MGTOW.

@agogeghost

@hel Do you suggest any resources for that? I've been doing a lot of meditation with deep breathing.

The major focus for me is breaking off a relationship with my current girlfriend who's been pushing to get married. I've been with her for 2 years now.

I was raised traditionally so church girl and all that.

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Yeah.

I really do like her and this is all really new still. I discovered all this about 2 weeks ago.

I saw too many men get screwed with divorce though and saw some red flags like her pestering me about income and stuff.

yeah , i understand it's gonna be hard to put yourself this time

I actually have never watched anime.

was just watchin one piece last night...just finished downloading fairy tale 2018

because halo wars 2 was downloading so my bandwith is fucked up for streaming

windows 10

waiting for them to have it so any game released on xbox can be played on windows....microsoft gunnin at steam...sony help!!!

Does anyone believe love is real or is it a projection of oneself?

I believe love is just a temporary chemical reaction and women never love men the way men expect to be loved

Love for women is mostly conditional.

Loyalty, honor all those values are instilled by women/media to men from young age , but only few to none women possess these values

Love is sacrifice

Is selfishness a virtue or an evil? I've been raised to serve others, specifically women (old lady, mother, sisters, etc), over myself. I've discovered Ayn Rand, Objectivism, Libertarianism, Ralph Waldo Emerson and now MGTOW/Red Pill. I feel a Renaissance of the Mind brewing!

Yes, sounds like you're a "nice guy"

@GrievousThePatriarch Yes, duty/sacrifice.

@hel Can you define that?

Let's see...

@Sparky I do agree with that overall.

My girlfriend is 20 and she's being heavily pressured to get married and have kids.

Like soon?

I've been growing more distant of religion and my family. I don't really know what to do there but keep absorbing this knowledge.

She's asked me multiple times this month about it.

If you live in the West and want to get married, don't do it since you will be most likely to lose your kids and money in a divorce

I'm not sure.

its time to abandon ship

@GrievousThePatriarch Yes, that's my concern.

Even if she is a church girl that doesn't change that she has the power to divorcerape you

You got too much dip on ya chip, it's time to go

So, having read the book a nice guy is simply a person who is afraid to be himself. He avoids confrontation, wants to be 'perfect' to everybody, has no sense of self aka will do whatever you ask him, overly agreeable, lets other women dictate what to do. These are just the symptoms I can think of for now. There is a book called "No more mr. nice guy". A nice guy is basically just a bluepilled dude but has a knack for validation-seeking, especially from women as you put it.

@shadowlessnexus I am looking into moving states. I found a few solid jobs a few hundred miles away. I think I will "ghost" my family until I am set up and feel secure in my knowledge.

i think thats a good idea if you can secure a job

And you may or may not believe that women are broken creatures and in need of 'fixing'

@hel I am 80% a nice guy. I do have my own identity and don't seek validation but more of a "duty over self" I was instilled with from Christian school K-12, University, Church, Family, Friends.