I believe that trying to control others or " fix " society is the one true evil. You live your life your way and contribute to collective efforts where you decide it benefits you to do so. Any type of forced collectivism or controling of other's free will is where corruption starts and bad things tend to follow.

But the funny part is. If you weren't trying to achieve a utopia and just did what created the greatest results with the least drawbacks. Eventually you could create something almost like a utopia

Would take a long time though

The people starting it would have to have a insane amount of delayed gratification which goes against human nature

I agree with just focusing on making the world around you a little bit better every day. I think anyone is fooling themselves if they think that they can achieve a utopia.

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whitepilled asf

Utopia cannot even be conceptualized without wholesale ignoring human nature

@Lilu I do this with my little neighborhood, it works out wonderfully when people actually try understanding one another.

@Reaper Sh.. take my hand... let's skip to Utopia. Close your eyes... just imagine...

Hell yeah.....we really need some kind of gene editing technology to start thinking of it

robocommunism

@Reaper No, I agree. I still argue all technology and progress is good. You can interpret that as evil.

@agogeghost make me a believer!!, lol

We live in the realm of the relative. Everything only exists in contrast to it's exact opposite. I live in near Chicago and when I travel to places like California or Florida and see people wearing jackets and gloves when it's in the mid 60's and then watch people in Russian swiming in holes in the ice you begin to understand.

Our concept of good and bad, pain and pleasure, etc... is all in compairison to an average of what we experience.

@Lilu so if I stabbed you in the neck would you only die if you believed my knife was real?

I view technological advances as the greatest thing humans can do, especially more so then worshipping some God who may or may not exist

@Reaper I'm not sure what the point of that comment is.

Through technology is how we will even learn the truth

Relativity is for woman and children men must deal with odjective reality

Otherwise we are just wasting time

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon I agree 100%.

My goal is to be the best engineer I can be.

I want to build cool shit.

What kind of engineering?

I WILL BUILD US TO UTOPIA GET ON MA BACK

robotics aerospace?

@Punished Korgoth I actually switched from mechanical to software.

@agogeghost Nice, can i come in at the last minute and mooch off of your utopia?

@Reaper if you can't understand that things exist in comparison to other's then you are not seeing the big picture.

@agogeghost Why is that?

@agogeghost build me a starship fleet and I'll make you an emperor

@Punished Korgoth Yes, no state though. No welfare. So mooching is all your own labor 😉

😦 I wanted free crap...i mean the kids! Yeah they need help too?

@Lilu recognizing a need for balance Is not the same as perceiving reality as some kind of cosmic see saw

Wont you think aboot the kids?
you heartless monster

@Punished Korgoth Honestly, I am still figuring myself out. I have my AS in computer science and already have 2 jobs lined up so depending on which I get (one is in finance and one is in manufacturing) I will try to see what I like more.

Life is movement and all movement is cyclical. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. A push in any direction inevitably results in things swinging back.

I graduated at age 16, got my AS by 18 at a local community college and have worked in "IT operations" for 2 years. Now, I am going full programming to see if I enjoy that as a job job.

There is not a need for balance, balance is the rule of the universe.