Just gonna say women in the military might not be the best idea, net positive tax payers on the other hand

Yeah it is. We just need a real war.

How do you force responsibility on someone? Take their rights and the ones that value their freedoms will rise to the level of men

If women can vote they will just block vote to have no responsibilities and keep all their rights.

Your country is collapsing

Violence is always the answer

Die with it holding those values

Remember all votes (politics) are self intrest.
People won't vote themselves more responsiblity unless it gets them something else. People hate responsiblity in general and women in particular.
So in these two scenarios of removing womens right to vote or giving them more responsiblities you have the same amount of effort to do both since women will not vote for it ever for either option.
At least if you take away their right to vote you can do more afterwards to try and improve society.

Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived.

exactly

If violence didn't work, then your not using enough violence

That doesn't mean it should be our first choice.

You've yet to provide one solution <@396901899724521482>

Its pretty much the only choice at this point

Just give them responsibility ... yeah sure

Give us a better alternative and I'll listen

They will take that responsibility and throw it at a man

They already are

As they always do

What actual solution

War

Just give responsibility, **how?**

For the US, it would require the republicans to swoop the senate, house, and president and then slam in a constitutional amendment or two.

Can't they vote against it as kragt states

So make women sign up for the draft?

Might as well wait for Jupiter to align with Mars and summon yog sothoth while we're at it.

Again we tried that already.

Or

Net tax

Do I have to beg TFM to hop in voice chat and do his Far Cry 3 impression again?

You understand our solution of removing rights from those who don't rise to male levels is exactly that right

Net Tax won't work without some PR shenanigans for the women.

How can you remove their rights when more than 50% of voters are women...

Nah

They all know they don't earn shit. It's whole reason they vote in this socialist nonsense to begin with.

I force responsibility on them by saying only net tax payers vote

Don't give them anything

Be responsible get a vote

Done and done

Give Them NOTHING!

Take everything