I mean, there's a difference between advocating systems to resolve conflict and advocating for some deontological natural rights as a reason why you should keep your house.

modern satanism and thelema are literally just parodies with no actual believers

another difference is they worship a different god

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Thelema beleives in Gods though. The three speakers in the book of law, Nuit, Hadit and Ra-Hoor-Khuit, with Crowley as the prophet.

LaVeyan Satanism is basically obejctvism, but they found a way to spread their ideas by exploiting Christian paranoia about devil worship, which is pretty smart.

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LaVeyan Satansim is literally just a parody, the founder themselves even noted that its not to be taken seriously, there IS however a satanism that isnt a parody but its not LeVeyan

O.T.O are a bunch of posers. They kicked out Augustus Invictus, Libertarian candidate, for ritualisticly sacrificing a goat, and drinking its blood. Pussies.

I mean, you're from Florida, you're a Libertarian, and you sacrifice animals to the Gods. Perfect parody candidate, but you're totally serious about your beliefs, unlike that dude who claimed to be a vampire.

no no no, that example would be Discordianism, the beliefs are real, but they arent to be taken seriously

your example is "its real belief but they are a parody as well without even meaning to be"

thats Discordianism, its a real belief with no original intention of being a parody, but by nature of Eris its basically a parody

technically, your example, he wouldn't be a "parody candidate" if hes serious about being a candidate

he definition of a parody is when someone or something is intentionally made to be a joke

So, like, why is Chaos good?

because nature is chaotic

Oh, no, Invistus is a Thelemite, not a Discordian.

order kills the universe

What does that mean?

@Weaboo Kempeitai didnt say he was, i said his example is the equivalent of what discordianism is

And why is killing the universe bad? Why should nature be obeyed?

real beliefs but is a joke unintentionally

Oh

@Weaboo Kempeitai thats not the point

look, Eris is the goddess of Chaos, but also the goddess of order

Within Chaos comes order

So, Chaos is order? Because it's nature.

nature is perfect, through chaos comes perfectly ordered systems and ecosystems

But why value order? Why value nature? Why not rebel against nature?

without chaos there can be no order, without order there can be no chaos, just like we cant have dark without light or light without dark

@Weaboo Kempeitai that works too

Hmm

rebelling against nature creates chaos, which in turn helps to create order

thats why discordianism is seen as a parody

everyone is a discordian!

So, we need order, and only through chaos comes order, like how without evil, there is no good? So, to achieve order, you need someone to tip the scales?

no matter what you do (or dont do) you are creating chaos or order

everything contributes to the great chao