t about attacking a specific individual, it's about the general reality of the left

they're either socialist, or they're liberal. there is no further discussion required on the matter

There used to be middle ground, it doesn't exist anymore

You can be liberal with socialist ideas. As I have socialist ideas and alignment, but in reality I'm conservative

I literally did not say all of them are socialist, I said the majority are. I said the people call themselves socialsit without knowing what it is, wear Che shirts

This might surprise you but *le gasp* I actually liked Obama to begin with and don't think he was that evil

Obama today is closer to Republicans in 2008 then Democrats to him in 2018

exactly, they're retards that don't know what liberal means, but if you know better, fucking show it

I don't care about semantics games

Call it left, liberal, whatever you want, these people are a part of that side and that group

its not semantics, its the english fucking language

No it's not, it's not even generally agreed upon what liberal and left even mean

And they're used interchangeably

if you go on wikipedia, they will generally say socialism is a left-leaning liberla ideology, to say it's not is just silly

like go to any major defintion

Socialism will generally be on the left side

And even if you find a defintion where that isn't the case, how it's generally used is more important

I honestly don't really care how you choose to define it

And it's irrelevant to my point

yes, socialism is left, liberalism is also generally left, this does not make liberal and socialist interchangable fucking titles

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/2020-poll-77-dems-back-socialism-but-most-voters-dont

the left wants people to think its interchangeable

I literally have never said all liberals are socialists

I said the majority of liberals today are socialist

socialists want people to think its interchangable

and you're still fucking wrong

The majority of the democrat party

you're either one or the other

ohmaigod this is so gay I don't care about how you define liberal and socialism

This is why people see liberals as retarded

"BUT THAT'S NOT A TRUE SCOTSMAN."

I don't give a flying fuck what they call themselves, you know better

Semantics is fucking dumb

"That's not the defintion of racism, this is!" I actually don't care

its not semantics, its fucking accurate

it is all semantics

There are multiple defininitions that exist for the same word

even left and right have other meanings, like being directions

the term left is nebelous and means a lot of things as does liberal

In britain the term liberal is more like conservative here

and the same is true in Japan