literally nothing past the 67 borders has been aquired by anything but rank violent conquest

except for again golan, but nvm

ok, here is the thing, we are talking about the area about twice the size of Rhode Island, WHY is that worth fighting over to the people around there when everyone other then Israel have plenty more land.

I don't think you understand how tiny that pice of land is right smack in the middle of Israel.

yea israel is quite an issue

i mean if they want to do their thing over there they can

just leave america out of it

Golan is a strategic asset, so Israel can have it.

well again, its an irritant, not something I'd go to war over

but still, that's the contension

hasn't Israel given up land severl times? some of it won fair and square yes?

um, no?

Yes

its been expansion after expansion

After 73

their border has only expended for decades

That’s blatantly false

even when asked politely by the US president to stop

that president being trump

you mean when they tried to give back golan but syria was all fucky about it?

They gave up land west of the purple line in 73

I will stop automaticly assumeing that Israel are the good guys out there when everyone else stops attacking civilians.
that is not OK no matter how much you think you have been ripped off.

flinging rockets at random is not the way to be seen as the good guys.

israel started settling in the west bank against the agreement they made with palestine. I mean its pretty simple you can just look up videos and there are videos of palestinians literally being forced out of their homes for israeli settlements. It has been the global precedent among many nations including the US that these civilian settlements were ILLEGAL

now that withstanding

me personally i dont care about palestine

Its when america gets dragged into the region and spends large sums of money on this that I start to take issue

what like they do everywhere else in the world?
i'm fine with supporting Israel with how much other money we waste on other countries, and at least I can know that they won't use that money to send people back to the US to try and blow us up.

name one other area the US has spent over 6 trillion dollars on in the last like what... 3 decades.

besides the middle east

just one

oh really

israel helps us not get blown up

funny

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

the israelis actually invented the bus bomb. and actually claim responsibility for modern day terrorism.

so.... about that.

so something form about 50 years ago or curently flinging rockets into civilian areas.

did you not read my previous argument

in that those civilian areas would not even be there to fling rockets at had israel not expanded into the west bank against their agreement

look both parties have some fault here ok.