Message from @Trainspotting_Vagabond
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in a healthy society i think i would be a bit of a progressive just by virtue of being extraordinarily high in openness
@Brue I've been talking to June here for several hours now, his arguments are nonsensical and I'm attempting to make a point
I'm actually kinda mad at myself right now. 3 Psych classes and never came across any scholarly correlation study for testosterone and IQ.
It's a question that absolutely merits analysis.
June is an ethnonationalist, she comes from an un empirical point of view. most of her foundational logic stems from the fact that she subjectivly likes whites more than any others. that is how she argues. he logic is consistant, but its flawed because it is not based on observable sensory experience, data, or can be tests to see if it is true
@Brue please. I can handle myself, thank you
@Benjamin Henry okay, just know argueing with her is just a circle jerk for your own ideas, you probably wont learn or gain anything
@Brue once again, stop. I can handle my own arguments.
@Brue - It's likely a study that hasn't been conducted as isolating variables inevitably enters into correlating ethnic backgrounds to IQ - control the race and you have empirical results - but you would have to conduct the study multiple times for an accurate measurement in society.
Enters into that taboo bubble of psychology again
Yes, because despite what the ethno-nationalists would like to believe, race is only one of a multitude of variables
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Oh, here we go
UnScottable, you were missed <a:pepetip:527644496989519877>
whaddup honkeys
hows my nibbas doin
@Mersenne colltaine has actually done several amazing videos which he puts together IQ and race and actually, (i dont actually know how well versed you are in statistics but ill continue, let me know if you need me to explain something), when creating regressions involving IQ and the racial categories and other controls, what ends up happening is that the signifigance of the race variable as an explanation for GDP of a country, Income of the person, or other dependent variables people use for calling success, the signifgance of the race variable goes to nothing. meaning that it is useless to determine variation in the model, so you would pull it out. IQ is the best variable and accounts for 60-80% of all variance in success dependent variables
ill PM you the video
the pentagon is a military institution.... if we're using that to fund the wall, there no longer exists any reason why we shouldn't pull literally all US troops out of the middle east and station an adequate portion at the border along with this wall
fuck this federal judge
@Jokerfaic I don't see how that logic follows
the fact that people who are racists only compare 2 variables are insane, you need multivariable analysis to control for different things to make causal claims
Yes and his video sort of just debunks that its monocausal. I dont think anyone who seriously considers these things believes that its monocausal centered on race.
customs and border protection and ICE aren't military organizations, they're law enforcement. if this wall is indeed military property, it should be at least partially staffed by military personel
but now this judge fucked that up
@Brue - Awesome, appreciate the sauce. That's the kind of multivariate analysis with variable statistical outcomes that bears the hallmark of a legitimate study worth investigating. Even if the results may be condemned within the psychological community for exploring *controversial elements* that compose any basic society.
watch the indivudals groups and the alt right first
Done. JP may be a clinical psychologist, but addresses the controversy and condemnation that follows such studies perfectly.
Now when combining average IQ's with other variables like cultural differences, impulse control differences, and so on. We can see why we see disparities in socioeconomic status for certain groups. "Race isnt everything but its not nothing" is a phrase that comes to mind. Its more or less conceptualizing all these variables working in conjunction with each other and then the compounding effects they have on each other.
That kind of racist rhetoric would get you clubbed with a bike lock in Berkeley <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>
Well no one doubts how the variables line up so that blacks on average, have a much higher athletic ability then whites.
Depends on the requirements of the particular sport
scotts logic follows how hedge funds work, they understand that some industries are correlated to certain market triggers, of course, not all of those companies in those industries will go up if something happens, some may go down, but on average there is a 60% movement in a direction correlated to a market trigger, this lets them "hedge a bet" on what will happen. and this allows to generalize and make LOT AND LOTS OF MONEY
scotts logic does the same but with just skin color,
but honestly i would rather you do it by intelligence
Well of course, but namely those that require explosive power. Short distance running for example. Blacks dominate the 100m dash and this is for a reason, and race isnt the only cause but it is one of many factors.
intelligence would get you 80% correct