Tbh our military is milked for cash by the companies they do business with; in my opinion those corporations should be nationalized

except lets not? Who fucking asked for that?

Corpses that in most cases made the choice to serve and the choice to go because they chose to do something with their lives that gave them wealth and pride <:shrug:349342983763656705>

And you some tard on the internet wants to spit on that <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

yes, I have so little respect for my country's servicemen I want their service to actually benefit their country instead of make fat saudi pigs richer

got it just right, moron

Except it wont dude, you like most civvies have it in their head that "troops should stay at home" without realising that troops staying at home are doing fuck all else and get sacked

where did I say stay home? nice dodge

So yes you do have little respect for them

Make the military the domestic police force <:thinking_clown:590855640268668928>

Basically what they want legio, but the military does not want to do that

No, the constitution forbids a standing army on US soil. the national guard is a separate entity

The idea of soldiers marching around their own streets detaining their own people is repugnant tbh

@Storin because then your state is implicitly at war with the population it governs

That's why I put the <:thinking_clown:590855640268668928>

You already have the police to do that as well

exactly

which is why I didn't suggest that

Yeah, but the people don't see it that way. It becomes much more obvious with a military presence

sorry, which people, and to what end?

The real you should be asking what would they be doing to benefit the country

Well as I said soldiers are usually working class men that don't "fit" in society, that is why they go to the military 🤔

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/politia#Latin
I'm talking about how people interpret their reality

And a lot of them (self included) have been on operations and I loved it

The general public sees a police presence as a "state presence"

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/militaris#Latin

....yes...? Not seeing where you're going with this. we've already established just putting the army on domestic soil isn't a solution

The biggest problem for the army is basically the home population, because most of them do not have the stomach for war and thus tend to turn what could be a victory into a route

Or limit the actions of the military and its services so much that they can not achieve the killing blow

But do you see the police themselves as a "military presence" by another name? @Jokerfaic. I thought that's what you were implying

um no?

I never mentioned such terms at all

I said the US constitution forbids a standing army on home soil, and that the national guard is a separate entity

If I understand what Joker was saying is that the staying in Middle east has no benefit for the US but has a benefit for the Saudis

That is what it sounded like Ordis

the police also being a separate entity, and not comprable to military bodies, regardless of their equipment

at least in the case of the US

Okay, i guess I misunderstood. Maybe it would make sense to have a hybrid system established in the form of private security which can be deployed.

Have different people trained in the same system for different things and then as it's not a state actor there's greater ambiguity about whether or not it's a military actor

I really don't see where you're going with this

Establish chapters in multiple countries unified under a core set of beliefs...