Message from @ARockRaider

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2020-01-31 04:59:18 UTC  

https://www.trumpwall.construction/

2020-01-31 04:59:28 UTC  

Miles Built: 110
Miles to be Built: 509+

2020-01-31 05:00:08 UTC  

lmao, yeah and about 90% of that was rebuilding already existing border.

2020-01-31 05:00:28 UTC  

bear in mind congressional obstruction

2020-01-31 05:01:31 UTC  

@Jokerfaic ah, here is another place where they talk about "free trade economics"
they say stuff like "these people haded any government intervention in the market, in other words they 'wanted the govenrment to protect their local market'" (the half quote part is my reading of what they say in the 2nd vid at around 4min)

2020-01-31 05:02:31 UTC  

3 years of office increases border by 10 miles

2020-01-31 05:02:35 UTC  

XD

2020-01-31 05:02:53 UTC  

Logically one assumes given the location of a vehicle barrier/pre-existing fence that it has been marked as an important location by Border Patrol. Thus it makes sense to start with ineffective fencing and move on from there.

2020-01-31 05:02:56 UTC  

yes, the tories were trade protectionists, and the whigs were hardliners on not artificially altering prices. this was outlining the difficulty the prime minister would have in pitching a solution that both parties would cede to that would get what he wanted done in Ireland

2020-01-31 05:03:01 UTC  

still not anti-capitalist

2020-01-31 05:03:21 UTC  

my point here is this is not "free trade" or "free market" in the slightest by any understanding of the terms, there is piles and piles of other stuff going on that is very much government intervention.

2020-01-31 05:04:56 UTC  

by today's standards, no, its not what we concern ourselves with regarding market intervention. still waiting to hear the 'subtle' blaming of markets for the famine

2020-01-31 05:05:27 UTC  

I'm pretty sure the fungal rot has been mentioned by now

2020-01-31 05:06:50 UTC  

at about 3:40 they start talking about this part i'm pointing out

2020-01-31 05:07:14 UTC  

yes?

2020-01-31 05:08:52 UTC  

tories are trade protectionists, so he can't undercut grain prices.
wigs were "similerly hardcore when it came to free trade economics"

ah, i think i found one of the places I may have made a mistake, my mind put the comma in the wrong place on my first viewing.

2020-01-31 05:09:18 UTC  

well alright then

2020-01-31 05:09:42 UTC  

god damn it, all this griping about food has actually gotten me hungry

2020-01-31 05:09:54 UTC  

still not enough to change my stance on the Extra Credits people.

2020-01-31 05:10:05 UTC  

and i still got more then half of this set to go.

2020-01-31 05:10:16 UTC  

I like most of what EC does

2020-01-31 05:10:28 UTC  

I like their history and sci fi

2020-01-31 05:10:53 UTC  

The board game they made is actually really fun, I played it at my library

2020-01-31 05:11:02 UTC  

they have a board game?

2020-01-31 05:11:13 UTC  

I used to like them, until a point where i stopped agreeing with them on their newer stuff.

2020-01-31 05:11:55 UTC  

Yeah, it's a political style game where you fight people over influence by sabotaging and compromising in equal measure

2020-01-31 05:12:27 UTC  

Victory is measured not only in how you were able to spin policy but by how well off your party is at the end of the game

2020-01-31 05:12:43 UTC  

wow

2020-01-31 05:13:42 UTC  

You can even intentionally fail certain aspects to hurt other players that have an overlapping victory condition, it's got a lot of depth with very simple mechanics

2020-01-31 05:14:25 UTC  

Sounds like a good way to freeze friendships

2020-01-31 05:16:12 UTC  

So like if you and bob both want global warming related projects to be defunded, you can hurt bob by aligning yourself with a party that wants to fund global warming related projects, thereby denying him the points for success while possibly also getting yourself a boost in, say, criminal justice reform.

2020-01-31 05:17:14 UTC  

so its a game geared toward the ambiguous and multi-agenda nature of modern legislation

2020-01-31 05:17:20 UTC  

that's brilliant

2020-01-31 05:17:35 UTC  

It really is

2020-01-31 05:22:43 UTC  

so, I have found another point where extra credits points to "alongside a commitment to non intervention in the free market" as part of the reason things got so bad.
this time it is in number 3 at about 4:15 or so.

2020-01-31 05:23:23 UTC  

oh, and he is still talking about how this policy is about "protecting the free market"

2020-01-31 05:23:37 UTC  

yes, market obsession exaserbated the problem. that's not a partisan comment, that's fact

2020-01-31 05:24:07 UTC  

the markets only go bad when messed up by the government in the first place

2020-01-31 05:24:37 UTC  

and the british government in general made the whole fucking thing worse, not just economically, yes

2020-01-31 05:25:14 UTC  

sectarian tensions were more prevalent than economic concerns