Message from @Ordis

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2020-02-02 07:28:21 UTC  

To make tha growth margin he would have to sell it at 6.00 per unit to the retailer making it 6.60 to the Retailer.

2020-02-02 07:28:41 UTC  

i'm sure that is by design.

2020-02-02 07:29:01 UTC  

also what happens when the price change isn't so clear?

2020-02-02 07:29:39 UTC  

like you buy a ton of flower and bake that into several diffrent things that each have their own cost and each flower used?

2020-02-02 07:29:47 UTC  

good god that is gonna be alot of paperwork.

2020-02-02 07:30:20 UTC  

Ok for that it's pretty much the price of the those Products *.1

2020-02-02 07:30:49 UTC  

so a basic cake is gonna have a pile of items you are gonna have to track going into it for this to work at all.

2020-02-02 07:30:56 UTC  

It basically Taxing every part of the Production

2020-02-02 07:31:06 UTC  

unless this is just a very complex way to say "we are taxing every time money changes hands"

2020-02-02 07:31:33 UTC  

and if that is the case, i was right form the start, VAT is infact a tax on everything.

2020-02-02 07:31:53 UTC  

It pretty much is the person gets taxes after buying the 2 dollar flower he gets taxes 20 cents

2020-02-02 07:32:25 UTC  

so why is it worded in such a way to make it seem so complex?

2020-02-02 07:32:51 UTC  

I don't know they sound like they are trying to say it a Snowball

2020-02-02 07:33:12 UTC  

When in actuality it's really another Sales tax

2020-02-02 07:33:44 UTC  

if it is a snowball where your taxes take into account of the taxes payed before you then someone is gonna have to track every single item that went into what you just bought.

2020-02-02 07:34:05 UTC  

Or atleast it sounds like it

2020-02-02 07:35:01 UTC  

Or a reverse Sales tax

2020-02-02 07:35:08 UTC  

just looked up a simple cake recipe, has 7 ingredients, does the baker have to keep track of the taxes payed on all of those ingredients to properly pay the taxes?

2020-02-02 07:35:47 UTC  

oh that's what they are gonna call it, a sales tax where the seller pays the taxes insted of the buyer, but the seller just rases their prices by %10 to offset the cost.

2020-02-02 07:36:04 UTC  

VAT is effectively a consumer's tax, because the loss from the added cost must be returned, and that comes from the consumer. The only question is who is effectively the consumer.

2020-02-02 07:36:26 UTC  

Ok so it's a sales tax

2020-02-02 07:36:29 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-02 07:36:33 UTC  

so it's a really complex sales tax.

2020-02-02 07:36:39 UTC  

It's just more complex for... reasons

2020-02-02 07:37:02 UTC  

as i said at the first, to make it less clear what the taxes are.

2020-02-02 07:37:21 UTC  

lel et

2020-02-02 07:37:27 UTC  

rekt BKP

2020-02-02 07:37:29 UTC  

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2020-02-02 07:37:34 UTC  

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2020-02-02 07:37:45 UTC  

hes so mad now

2020-02-02 07:37:56 UTC  

"it's like hes trying to speak to me i just know it!"

2020-02-02 07:38:06 UTC  

I think the original idea came from someone who had good intentions, but then it was pushed and implemented by idiots.

2020-02-02 07:38:10 UTC  

aka socialists

2020-02-02 07:39:22 UTC  

I mean you can get refunded for the VAT

2020-02-02 07:39:24 UTC  

ahh, the road paved with good intentions! oh hay I see the next town comeing up!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Michigan

2020-02-02 07:40:02 UTC  

Socialists will never understand that value is ultimately always determined by supply and demand and not by productivity.

2020-02-02 07:40:31 UTC  

if VAT was made by someone with good intentions they forgot that it is never as simple as they think.

2020-02-02 07:41:04 UTC  

But I think it's only Foriegners who can get refunded if they don't have a VAT

2020-02-02 07:41:51 UTC  

Whatever it is, it only adds paperwork, which is just another extra layer of costs.

2020-02-02 07:42:06 UTC  

The people benefitting are of course bureaucrats.

2020-02-02 07:42:14 UTC  

the government always "forgets" about the added paperwork.