Message from @ARockRaider

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2020-02-04 21:50:43 UTC  

what is your Right-Left scale?

2020-02-04 21:50:53 UTC  

is it the one that put Hitler on the right?

2020-02-04 21:51:03 UTC  

generally individualism versus collectivism

2020-02-04 21:51:15 UTC  

except when you throw in politics of a governing state

2020-02-04 21:51:37 UTC  

and then further complicated when you introduce economic factors and international relations

2020-02-04 21:51:54 UTC  

its nowhere near as simple as "see those people wanna tell you what to do, and the other people don't"

2020-02-04 21:52:25 UTC  

so tell me how an "individualist authoritarian" work?

2020-02-04 21:53:03 UTC  

that would generally involve a priviledged upper class, more often than not decided by familial ties or other such inherited status

2020-02-04 21:53:15 UTC  

aristocracy, dictatorship, and so on

2020-02-04 21:53:25 UTC  

the individuals in power over the masses

2020-02-04 21:53:33 UTC  

that doesn't sound individualist to me though.

2020-02-04 21:53:51 UTC  

not for the common citizenry, of course not

2020-02-04 21:54:21 UTC  

then it's a moot point, what the political system thinks of the common citizenry is the IMPORTANT part of it.

2020-02-04 21:54:55 UTC  

a political system doesn't have its own "thoughts", its not the fucking matrix

2020-02-04 21:55:16 UTC  

you could say that, but it works well enough for a conversation like this.

2020-02-04 21:55:40 UTC  

a conversation where one entire wing of the political spectrum is authoritarian and the other is just magically not

2020-02-04 21:56:17 UTC  

I never said the republicans weren't authoritarian, I think most of them given the chance would be fine with that.

2020-02-04 21:56:42 UTC  

you quite literally defined "the right" as being the wing of freedom in contrast to the left which isn't

2020-02-04 21:56:42 UTC  

'eh no.... republicans are authoritarian in another nature. Your bedroom/religion

2020-02-04 21:56:51 UTC  

^

2020-02-04 21:57:02 UTC  

the politicans i mean.

2020-02-04 21:57:04 UTC  

Which is why I refuse to hold an allegiance to any party

2020-02-04 21:57:10 UTC  

same

2020-02-04 21:57:18 UTC  

They both want to tyrannize me in a different structure

2020-02-04 21:57:23 UTC  

until one arrives that actually espouses proper liberal values

2020-02-04 21:57:43 UTC  

I would say i didn't hold an allegiance to a single party, if there were any other real options, but that is its own thing entirely.

2020-02-04 21:58:02 UTC  

It would be nice to have a "Leave me the fuck alone and I'll leave you the fuck alone" party

2020-02-04 21:58:11 UTC  

totally agree with that.

2020-02-04 21:58:28 UTC  

America could do with a purple party, like UKIP

2020-02-04 21:58:32 UTC  

USIP

2020-02-04 21:58:54 UTC  

a party of national sovereignty

2020-02-04 21:59:03 UTC  

intranational perspective

2020-02-04 21:59:12 UTC  

again, I like the idea but we would need a big change in how votes are done, and I don't trust anyone who is in power right now to make a change that doesn't break things more then they already have.

2020-02-04 21:59:15 UTC  

intrranational concerns

2020-02-04 21:59:34 UTC  

yes, first-past-the-post needs to go

2020-02-04 22:00:11 UTC  

I agree, but again, I don't trust the people in power to make the change.

2020-02-04 22:01:10 UTC  

I guess maine changed to a new system last time around, and I don't know what version they got but form the little i have heard about it the politicans get to chose where the votes cast for them go if they don't win, and that's not really a good system.

2020-02-04 22:01:57 UTC  

but it could be something else, I didn't really look into it that much.

2020-02-04 22:02:47 UTC  

could just be that this state really is that blue, wouldn't surprise me honestly.

2020-02-04 22:03:11 UTC  

I think it was Ohio or somewhere that had a ballot measure to try ranked choice voting, but their state legislature had an "emergency session" and nullified the vote

2020-02-04 22:03:23 UTC  

Tulsi's IG livestreams are the best. Half of the people are saying how much they love her, and the other half call her a milf