Sentience is a double edged sword

The power to give you everything you want often has the power to take it all away

We are very not robust

How do you guys feel about the whole “humans are space orcs” type thing?

Our brains require so much damn fuel

Such a bizzarre thing, we have nuclear power to give us power for millions of years, but it could also be the end of us

Eh I think humans will end up being like humans and not orcs

I think if there are other sapient life forms

They were on a simmilar path to us

Every advanced species that rose to the top would have to have been warlike on their own planets to get to their current point, with the U.S. for example inventing much of the world's technology in the last 100 years, in part due to wars, be it nuclear power, computers, the internet, radio, penicillin or whatever

Pursuit predators need Dem big brains

Any alien species that rose to the top was problably just as if not more warlike than us, so they'd problably see us as about even

A plant doesn't need to think

Nor does a rushdown hunter

You misunderstand, it doesn’t literally posit that humans will become akin to space orcs.

It’s saying that we’re just so goddamn tough in the dumbest of ways that we are akin to many fantasy and sci-fi interpretations of orcs or orc-like creatures.
We’re a lot tougher than our feeble bodies let off.

Nor a brawler

Aliens wouldn't see us as being all that different from their own histories and us as being some kind of inferiors or whatever, I mean some might, but any with intelligence will see us as the humansz

I'm aware @Gespa

I'm explaining why I think most aliens would be quite like us

Was more directed towards @everybodydothatdinosaur

Well humans are not that tuff sadly, if we were sea sponges that would be cool

one little nick and we bleed out, can't even grow limbs back

What do you mean? We’re crazy tough.

pssft a chimp can grow back organs better than us, a bear can

oh we are crazy, but wouldn't that make us more like the imperial guard

The imperial guard has a positive k/d against almost every foe it faces

Only the eldar Tau and necrons have a positive kd against the guard

An idea I had though was that if the earth's gravity was lower, like moon levels for example, or even mars, we could have had interstellar travel not that long ago. You see currently to take off to get out of orbit we need to travel over 11 km/s, which is actually extremely difficult to do, but the V-2 rocket say in WWII would have been capable of easily luanching off of the moon, in fact some chinese fireworks may have been able to do this. Hence, some really poorly advanced species but that say, evolved on one of Jupiter's moons or a moon like jupiter could end up colonizing space, and start off as a bunch of morons, so something like the orcs could spread

You'd think a really advanced society would be needed in order to go in to space, but if the gravity was just a little bit less it wouldn't neccessarily have had to be the case. Space nazis could really be a thing

Our problem is that like only 1-3% of the payload of a rocket can be sent in to space given the speed needed and the fact that chemical energy only provides just barely what's needed but like, if we had half the gravity we could have gone in to space like 400 years ago possibly, of course we would have died up there, but it would have been possible

Ethonal rockets were the first thing to go in to space, and ethonal has been made for thousands of years, it's basically drinking alchohol. A really stupid society could have gotten in to space if it evolved on a low gravity planet 🤔

We may not be very strong, nor may we be able to take a lot of damage over a sustained period of time, that’s a given,
But we are still heavily resilient.
We have an immensely rapid healing rate. That’s why we scar over, and why our scars on large wounds are so ugly. The body is so efficient at immediate repair that it leaves behind these disgusting remains. We don’t have to worry about hair or camouflage or anything like that to survive.

We can survive highly traumatic injury. Where many animals in the kingdom would die from shock immediately after something like losing an arm, we can mitigate it both in terms of mental fortitude and bodily reactivity.

We are built for endurance. Even today, the endurance of humans is almost unparalleled in the animal kingdom. We can keep on a jog or march longer than many animals can survive a run

Well I'd argue we are more like the eldar, intelligence glass cannons, or the imperial guard, willing to rush head first in to battle evne if we die, like in WWI or even WWII

We are brave and tenacious, despite the inherent fragility we all possess

its more that humans know how to deal with our wounds

Even a wolf knows to lick its wounds, my friend.

The sort of strong will, so I guess we are like the imperial guard. Humans heal slowly compared to other animals sadly. I guess we are just really tenacious and have a lot of willpower, and will blow ourselves up or run headfirst in to battle if need be

one way I compare our fragility is that cows can eat grass all day despite all the dirt and bacteria and end up fine, and wolves and cats and whatnot can eat raw meat. Yet human digestive systems such so much we can't do eitheir and were basically shit until we had fire

our inherent fragility forced us to be smart about things, and this lead to us developing technology to compensate. For example, rats can produce vitamin C, but humans can't, so we had to eat fruit and develop color vision, and becoming more visual forced us to be more intelligent (our eyes are like 20% of our brain). Visual identification requires a lot of higher thought instead of instinctive thought like smelling, and so this forced us to get smarter

We then got more empathetic as we were a social species, and this allowed us to share information, write it down and pass it to generaitons

Humans can eat raw meat, it’s just better for our stomachs not to.
Cattle can eat grass even if it’s dirty because they have several stomachs, promoting a heavily enriched gut fauna Chewing the cud also stops cattle from getting any cuts in their digestive tract, which keeps bacteria from the gut out of the bloodstream