Message from @TheGhostAgent

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2020-02-13 15:28:48 UTC  

Or maybe she was just having a real bad day

2020-02-13 15:28:55 UTC  

and make a stupid mistake

2020-02-13 15:29:07 UTC  

... a real bad day does not justify the other toxic things she's said that night

2020-02-13 15:29:34 UTC  

And I'm not saying she was right to say what she said, just trying to understand why she'd say it, is all

2020-02-13 15:29:34 UTC  

And bad days don't give ppl a carte blanche freebie on saying some really f'd up shit

2020-02-13 15:29:55 UTC  

Otherwise terminal ppl will have all the freebies in the world to be dicks

2020-02-13 15:30:07 UTC  

You and I are in agreement on that, yes

2020-02-13 15:30:33 UTC  

Narcissists take freebies as writ.

2020-02-13 15:30:53 UTC  

So, what is it BLM wants? And this might actually help you understand why she said what she said. I'll give you a hint, it's in the name: Black Lives Matter.

2020-02-13 15:31:07 UTC  

I'm assuming this woman was black, yes? Not a white ally or something?

2020-02-13 15:32:10 UTC  

Yes she's black

2020-02-13 15:32:33 UTC  

The original intention was to reduce police brutality.
It got morphed into Black Supremacy and execution of all non-blacks

2020-02-13 15:33:22 UTC  

Not quite. You're not digging deep enough. WHY do they wanna reduce police brutality? Why would a group call themselves "black lives matter" and how does that relate to police brutality?

2020-02-13 15:33:39 UTC  

I honestly don't think they really care about any rights for or treatment of blacks. I think they just saw a movement for power and money which was being controlled by their own kind, and they decided to dig in.

2020-02-13 15:33:51 UTC  

tl;dr - she was mouthing off how the crackers needs to move aside for the blacks because of oppression. I said uh... that's rather inflammatory, how would you like i tif someone dropped the N word?
She said then they should be lynched so they can understand how it's like to be lynched...
And the convo continued to spiral downward from there

2020-02-13 15:34:29 UTC  

"So they can understand how it's like."

She just told you what she wants right there.

2020-02-13 15:34:45 UTC  

So what does she feel like she's not getting?

2020-02-13 15:34:50 UTC  

It was 2019... there's no mass lynchings going around

2020-02-13 15:35:09 UTC  

But they're getting shot by cops, right?

2020-02-13 15:35:39 UTC  

At the end, power. Because we eventually got to AA and how I disagreed w/the quota they're putting on Asians in being accepted into the city's top tier HS and instead, allowing a greater number of blacks just because they're black. After that, she called me a white supremacist. So I was done

2020-02-13 15:35:57 UTC  

Yes, just don't shoot at cops or commit crime. That tends to reduce your probability of being shot by a cop

2020-02-13 15:36:58 UTC  

Ok, let me try this a different way. You brought up the issue of racial discrimination against Asians in schools, right? How does that make you feel, relative to THIS particular situation?

2020-02-13 15:37:15 UTC  

Fundamentally, WHY is that a problem?

2020-02-13 15:37:25 UTC  

What does said discrimination say about YOU

2020-02-13 15:37:31 UTC  

Is this a rhetorical Q or serious one?

2020-02-13 15:37:35 UTC  

serious

2020-02-13 15:37:56 UTC  

dark, assuming their intentions are honest and they actually feel there is need for a change to achieve some equality, that they feel wronged - That scenario puts nothing between us and them except the propaganda. Problem is, that's the propaganda they produce and disseminate, and you're written off with slurs if you question it.

2020-02-13 15:37:58 UTC  

Nothing about me. I'm against AA of any kind or discrimination that is irrelevant to the field in question when standards are set.

2020-02-13 15:38:15 UTC  

Yes, but why?

2020-02-13 15:38:28 UTC  

What does AA make you feel about your efforts?

2020-02-13 15:38:34 UTC  

If you score high on a standardized test, you deserve to get into the school of your choice. Having an arbitrary quota based on skin color is itself the definition of racism.

2020-02-13 15:39:02 UTC  

How or what I feel is absolutely irrelevant to the principle at hand, which is setting for a genuinely racist policy.

2020-02-13 15:39:14 UTC  

So in other words, you might say that discrimination based on race, makes it feel like your efforts, wait for it ... don't matter?

2020-02-13 15:39:19 UTC  

I'd be against AA whether it was for or against asians.

2020-02-13 15:40:02 UTC  

If you're trying to falsely equivocate being anti-AA on the same degree of BLM, I'm just gonna stop you there. They're not even remotely close

2020-02-13 15:40:17 UTC  

Ok, so you're not getting it, so let me spell it out ...

2020-02-13 15:40:41 UTC  

You're trying to appeal to emotion. That shit does not validate an argument

2020-02-13 15:41:16 UTC  

Emotion is the reason why they do what they do. Human nature is to make decisions based on emotion and then rationalize why you made the right choice after, even if you didn't.

2020-02-13 15:42:46 UTC  

Excusing their shitty power grabbing behavior by simply waving it off as making an emotional decision is not very helpfull

2020-02-13 15:44:36 UTC  

So here, let me spell it out for you.

What "Black Lives Matter" wants is ... to matter.
To feel like their lives matter. To feel like black lives matter.

Again, it's right there in the name. That tells you everything. At the moment, they feel like their lives don't matter, whereas other lives - of other races - do, or at least matter more than theirs, when everyone's should matter equally. All lives matter, right? But they feel like we don't really mean that as a society, and use unjust killings by cops as just one of many examples for why they believe that. Whether it's actually true or not, that's how they feel; and we can argue statistics and so forth, but at the end of the day, it changes how you deal with them whether you think they're after power or after a sense of belonging, yes?