It’s possible and saying muh women sounds like utter incellery tbh

It’s a various amount of reasons

it's not even remotely incellery, it's just a description of reality

Another example is media and how people will blindly believe something in the hope that it will eventually get better

@S K E L L Y Ivanthenotsoterrible People like that are the reason why voting should have IQ testing.

IQ is a dreadful thing to base voting on

Eccles how do you know that a libertarian society can’t be achieved with women lol, libertarianism itself is based on liberty and if women can’t vote libertarianism won’t be achieved

@Eccles I was joking btw

Even stupid people have valid points when it comes to politics

What I said, Ivan, women tend away from libertarianism and towards a protective state because of the inherent gender role

Or the fact that stupid people are influenced by politics and we need them to vote to see their opinion

The more fretful the existance, the stronger that will eb

And thanks to all the changes since the invention of birth control, it will only get stronger

And as all-female-shortlists and anti-male descrimination affect the make-up of parliament more, it will only get stronger

The opportunity for a libertarian society has long passed

Banning birth control is gonna be the opposite of liberty

I didn't suggest that

So what’s your point about birth control?

pointing out the direction of travel, since it was relevent

An Anti Male parliament is parliament not all women you know

i didn't say it was

should make birth control free

Reduce abortion

So what group of women are you blaming?

it probably should be

nobody is being blamed, ivan

Didn’t you literally just say libertarianism won’t be achieved due to women

yes

that's not the same as saying "it's women's fault"

they're not doing it on purpose

Someone can be at fault if it’s on purpose or not

not here tho

Who’s fault is it that there isn’t libertarianism then?

pointless question

better to ask how things can be made better within the confines of reality as it exists now

This whole conversation is quite pointless I’m simply asking the question regardless of how significant it might be

you might want to distinguish fault from blame

and responsibility

Most women I speak to shout politics say you’re not free but at least you’re safe

So there’s validity that they like nanny state

of course they do, it's in their nature to