would be interesting to see something that is like cohort based

@Eccles what was the main political reason to do so

cost saving or?

Cost saving, right-to-buy, not wanting to be responsible for it

Typical government thing - privatise shit and then we can't be blamed when it goes wrong

It's why all the roads are shit

tbh I'm half sure that the issues we're facing can all be traced back to people living longer and the proportion of young people shrinking

are roads privatized in the uk?

no

yes and no

generally no

No, Cabbage, but the maintenance of them is contracted out

Whereas it used to be done in-house

finding a private road is hard and its normally connecting to a home or business

It's why the roads are shit, and will continue to be shit

The maintenance model is totally unfit for purpose

as if state run road maintenance is cheaper and more efficient

but we can sue for problems on the roads

They're still shit, wladfa

so if you fuck up your wheel because of a pot hole

anything done for the state is automatically 300% more expensive and 300% more shit tbh

so it's kinda sorta ok

An interesting bit of data on my search

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/personal-banking/2016/02/19/gov_3577885b_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpJliwavx4coWFCaEkEsb3kvxIt-lGGWCWqwLa_RXJU8.jpg?imwidth=450

but still annoying

@Cabbage not sure i'd want private roads

Wladfa, you can't sue for the 99% of cases where the constant use of poor quality roads is significantly reducing the life of your car and increasing your chances of an accident

true

The "sue" argument covers the fringe cases

then we need to open the local govs to be sued for poor quality roads in some format

Like the NHS, the roads moved to a "triage" system which means it can never be better than "attrociously mediocre"

okay so

Won't happen

I found some stats

very detailed

but fucking shite to look at

so have this and I'll keep looking

https://www.ubdc.ac.uk/media/1774/poverty-and-housing-tenure-data-explorer.png?width=826

basically huge amounts of young people (30 and younger) are living rent free or in the care of others

what do the colours represent

I can't read this 😦