Message from @Eccles

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2020-01-22 10:30:16 UTC  

to spread it with the masses

2020-01-22 10:30:20 UTC  

Well

2020-01-22 10:30:24 UTC  

Thatcher was 100% for it

2020-01-22 10:30:27 UTC  

Democracy in England is a recent thing

2020-01-22 10:30:33 UTC  

but it started to be a thing with rising incomes

2020-01-22 10:30:37 UTC  

well, yeah, it's very recent everywhere

2020-01-22 10:30:44 UTC  

Except America

2020-01-22 10:30:52 UTC  

America has a long ass tradition

2020-01-22 10:31:05 UTC  

they're not a democracy

2020-01-22 10:31:12 UTC  

lol

2020-01-22 10:31:18 UTC  

neither are we tho

2020-01-22 10:31:23 UTC  

LOL

2020-01-22 10:31:44 UTC  

of course we're not what are you laughing at, it's not the pure definition

2020-01-22 10:31:46 UTC  

it's a mixture

2020-01-22 10:31:47 UTC  

But yeah the stats are interesting, does anyone have the modern stats?

2020-01-22 10:32:08 UTC  

Because I wonder if we've stagnated since the 90s

2020-01-22 10:33:43 UTC  

It peaked and has been stable/slowly falling since the late 90s

2020-01-22 10:34:04 UTC  

more detailed recent stats

2020-01-22 10:34:07 UTC  

In demographic terms, the average age of first buying is going up

2020-01-22 10:34:11 UTC  

As affordability goes down

2020-01-22 10:34:17 UTC  

so the number of people actually fully owning their home is up

2020-01-22 10:34:33 UTC  

but the number of people owning a home fully or with mortgage in total is down

2020-01-22 10:34:38 UTC  

There's a 25 yr lag on full ownership

2020-01-22 10:34:46 UTC  

ye

2020-01-22 10:34:52 UTC  

Yes

2020-01-22 10:34:59 UTC  

is there any reports based on generations?

2020-01-22 10:35:05 UTC  

I can look

2020-01-22 10:35:07 UTC  

There has been

2020-01-22 10:35:17 UTC  

But it's interesting that council is being replaced by housing association

2020-01-22 10:35:20 UTC  

It shows exactly what you'd expect it to be

2020-01-22 10:35:22 UTC  

I think that's a good thing, I think

2020-01-22 10:35:26 UTC  

Thats by design, Kunarian

2020-01-22 10:35:35 UTC  

Councils started offloading property in the late 80s

2020-01-22 10:35:36 UTC  

would be interesting to see something that is like cohort based

2020-01-22 10:35:49 UTC  

@Eccles what was the main political reason to do so

2020-01-22 10:35:51 UTC  

cost saving or?

2020-01-22 10:36:06 UTC  

Cost saving, right-to-buy, not wanting to be responsible for it

2020-01-22 10:36:30 UTC  

Typical government thing - privatise shit and then we can't be blamed when it goes wrong

2020-01-22 10:36:47 UTC  

It's why all the roads are shit

2020-01-22 10:36:55 UTC  

tbh I'm half sure that the issues we're facing can all be traced back to people living longer and the proportion of young people shrinking