Message from @nathanx2000

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2020-01-29 14:00:20 UTC  

but it is true that Monbiot, like his guardian-toting urban faux-envirocommie peers, wants to impose authoritarianism and return us all to living in fucking caves (or cages)

2020-01-29 14:02:37 UTC  

``The CCC envisages not wild woods, but plantations, whose purpose is the discredited policy of “bioenergy with carbon capture and storage”.

This means growing wood to burn in power stations, then capturing and burying the carbon emissions. It is likely to cause more harm than good. Could the committee’s enthusiasm have anything to do with the fact that one of its members works for Drax, the energy company pioneering this disastrous technology? Throughout the report, business appears to come first; nature and climate last.``

2020-01-29 14:03:00 UTC  

BBC are saying that Northern nationalisation might not have any effect, because the same trains and staff will still be in service after the change

2020-01-29 14:05:24 UTC  

" It is likely to cause more harm than good." he asserts without evidence

2020-01-29 14:06:26 UTC  

Is he a climate change cultist?

2020-01-29 14:06:26 UTC  

All very well rewilding, but you need places to rewild, and you need to feed your population, which fucknuggets like him have been deliberately inflating the size of over the last 30 year

2020-01-29 14:06:28 UTC  

yes

2020-01-29 14:06:34 UTC  

Because nothing is ever good enough for them

2020-01-29 14:06:46 UTC  

Sadly I have to work with his acolytes

2020-01-29 14:06:55 UTC  

Which can be quite a chore

2020-01-29 14:14:10 UTC  

I’ve bought the Merch

2020-01-29 14:14:47 UTC  

It's worth buying just to piss remainers off

2020-01-29 14:14:59 UTC  

That’s why I bought it mainly

2020-01-29 14:15:04 UTC  

Plus needed a new tea towel

2020-01-29 14:15:06 UTC  

actually Eccles he cites these links with that statement:

2020-01-29 14:15:16 UTC  

Fuck that, £12 is half my food and entertainment budget for the week

2020-01-29 14:15:23 UTC  

all

2020-01-29 14:16:04 UTC  

They might be gibberish

2020-01-29 14:16:15 UTC  

Cant say for sure though without reading them

2020-01-29 14:18:57 UTC  

12 ain’t shit to me, I wish you favourable monetary luck ma dude

2020-01-29 14:20:15 UTC  

The first article, which is the only science paper he links to, does not back up his claim

2020-01-29 14:20:37 UTC  

It only says that rewilding and avoiding deforestation is more effective at sequestering CO2 than switching land use to biofuel

2020-01-29 14:20:37 UTC  

it's a long article and i haven't found the evidence for his claim

2020-01-29 14:20:52 UTC  

not gonna read the whole thing

2020-01-29 14:20:57 UTC  

Most of these cultists rely on appeals to authority

2020-01-29 14:21:07 UTC  

i.e. people believe it as true because he said it

2020-01-29 14:21:16 UTC  

Lmao

2020-01-29 14:21:20 UTC  

@Hopix fire all the staff

2020-01-29 14:21:31 UTC  

it's not the trains fault

2020-01-29 14:21:40 UTC  

personally, he is right in that the best thing to do is allow limited rewilding and move to low-intensity farming

2020-01-29 14:21:50 UTC  

this is best for habitat and ecosystem processes

2020-01-29 14:21:58 UTC  

Its just I've seen "sources" for climate change countless times that dont even represent the claim being made

2020-01-29 14:22:05 UTC  

but it's not possible unless you do something about population levels, and strategic approaches to energy and food production

2020-01-29 14:22:14 UTC  

none of which any party is willing to engage with for ideological reasons

2020-01-29 14:22:19 UTC  

so it's dead in the water as an idea

2020-01-29 14:22:44 UTC  

and so the bangladeshis will all drown and climate change will happen

2020-01-29 14:23:15 UTC  

because they think communism/globalism (delete as appropriate) is more important than action that works effectively without throwing the baby out with the bathwater

2020-01-29 14:23:45 UTC  

so fuck them all and enjoy the catastrophe is my view on the matter

2020-01-29 14:40:10 UTC  

Anyone read up on "Blue Labour"?

2020-01-29 14:40:18 UTC  

One thing that annoys me about this environmental stuff is his idea that environment managing is only something that climate deniers do.